Agentic Transformation with Kayleen Weaver & Patrick Kelly
The Chad & Cheese Podcast
October 13, 2026
Talent acquisition teams are currently being expected to pull off the ultimate corporate hat trick: hire at breakneck speed, manifest unicorn candidates out of thin air, slash budgets down to pennies, and somehow prove it with shiny metrics.
Speakers Joel Cheesman, Chad Sowash, Kayleen Weaver, Patrick Kelly
TopicsCareersBusinessTechnology
Joel Cheesman (0:00)
Dude, it turns out that Winston, Smart Recruiter's first AI hiring sidekick, is taking all the grunt work out of Recruiter's Day.
Things like candidate screening, scheduling, all the admin garbage no one actually wants to touch. Winston can do it all.
Chad Sowash (0:17)
Man, you know I'm a fan of using new tech that takes the boring, repetitive crap out of a Recruiter's Day, and allows them to have more time to connect with hiring managers and candidates.
Joel Cheesman (0:29)
Yep, Winston is doing the heavy lifting while recruiters kick back and do the actual hiring stuff. You know, like talking to people.
Chad Sowash (0:37)
I really dig that Smart Recruiters is evolving out of the legacy ATS model and embracing cleaner processes using AI. With most ATS providers, it's like, hey, 2003 called and it wants its 30-minute application process back.
Joel Cheesman (0:53)
No doubt. It sounds like Rebecca and the team are using Winston to push Smart Recruiters into the future, while the ATS vendors are basically on an AOL dial-up modem with a dashboard.
Chad Sowash (1:05)
With Smart Recruiters, Winston does the grind and the recruiters get the glory.
Joel Cheesman (1:11)
For more information on superhuman hiring with Winston, visit smartrecruiters.com. That's smartrecruiters.com.
Chad Sowash (1:19)
Start using Winston today or I guess you can stick with the show for a little bit longer.
SPEAKER_3 (1:25)
Now we return you to our regular scheduled program In Progress.
SPEAKER_4 (1:29)
Hide your kids, lock the doors. You're listening to HR's most dangerous podcast. Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman are here to punch the recruiting industry right where it hurts.
SPEAKER_5 (1:40)
Complete with breaking news, brash opinion and loads of snark.
SPEAKER_6 (1:44)
Buckle up boys and girls, it's time for The Chad & Cheese Podcast.
Joel Cheesman (1:58)
It is the podcast your HR lady warned you about.
We are The Chad & Cheese Podcast. I'm your co-host, Joel Cheesman. Joined always, Chad Sowash is in the house.
SPEAKER_4 (2:08)
Hello.
Joel Cheesman (2:09)
I said, welcome to RepFest USA National.
SPEAKER_4 (2:12)
Oh, yes.
Joel Cheesman (2:16)
Come on, the Brits are live in that. I said, welcome to RepFest USA.
SPEAKER_7 (2:22)
Here we go. There we go.
Joel Cheesman (2:24)
Let's do some jumping jacks. No.
One of us drank too much last night. I'll let you figure out who it was. Good luck with that. We're in for a day of disruption, Chad. I'm frankly glad that there aren't just such a humanoid robots in the audience, because I've been led to believe that the people are worthless, that we don't need them anymore. Apparently, we do.
SPEAKER_8 (2:45)
I don't think that's what it is.
Chad Sowash (2:46)
I think, and that's this stage, obviously, we're going to be talking about tech all day. Hopefully, you'll be able to pop in and out, actually hear from what you're getting ready to, tease, tease, some practitioners who have problems, use technology, practitioners that use technology to actually drive outcomes. That's what we're looking for, all this bullshit, dystopian stuff.
SPEAKER_8 (3:12)
We're not going to get into it.
Chad Sowash (3:13)
We're going to get into our everyday work.
Joel Cheesman (3:15)
Should we begin the show? Let's do it. We made them wait long enough. Everybody, welcome Patrick Kelly and Kayleen Williams to the stage.
There are two experts on the stage and it's not Chad & Cheese. Welcome, everybody. We have the mic up, so we'll get some mics for you guys. Get comfy. Welcome, guys.
SPEAKER_9 (3:35)
Yeah.
Joel Cheesman (3:36)
You having a good time in Nashville? What did you do last night?
Kayleen Weaver (3:38)
It's been great. I just got in yesterday.
SPEAKER_9 (3:40)
Here's the mic. There you go.
Kayleen Weaver (3:41)
Just got in yesterday. We had the recruiting leadership summit yesterday.
SPEAKER_9 (3:45)
Oh, yeah.
Kayleen Weaver (3:46)
We had lots of impactful conversations. After that, my brain was a little bit fried with information, and I did a little bit of socializing and then took it in for the night.
Patrick Kelly (3:55)
Okay.
SPEAKER_5 (3:55)
Good call.
Chad Sowash (3:56)
Hey, it's a marathon, not a sprint.
SPEAKER_5 (3:58)
It's a marathon, yes.
Patrick Kelly (4:00)
I flew in late last night, so I didn't have an amazing night. I just had to go to the hotel and get ready for an amazing next couple of days.
SPEAKER_5 (4:09)
All right.
Joel Cheesman (4:10)
Get ready for Mardi Gras, my friend, because it's going down. All right. Something we always do on the show is a little, we call it a Twitter bio. It's a 30-second sort of about you, not the business stuff, family, sports, whatever, where you're from. Give us 30 seconds on you, Kayleen.
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