'60 Minutes' Meltdown, Trump's Intel Chief Pick, and Apple’s Next Big Bet

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It's like someone coming to me and saying, I think you need to lead the New York Knicks to victory. It's like, no. Hi everyone, this is Pivot from New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network. I'm Kara Swisher.

**Scott Galloway** (1:53)
And I'm Scott Galloway.

**Kara Swisher** (1:54)
Oh Scott, you so owe me.

**Scott Galloway** (1:56)
I do owe you. You kind of came through.

**Kara Swisher** (1:57)
Explain for the people.

**Scott Galloway** (1:58)
I came through. You delivered one of my heroes.

**Kara Swisher** (2:01)
Yeah, I did.

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**Scott Galloway** (2:04)
So, we're fifth and last final city of our Five City Profit markets tour in New York. Obviously important because this is what I consider, I don't know.

**Kara Swisher** (2:16)
The center of the universe.

**Scott Galloway** (2:17)
Yeah, the center of the universe is important. And sold out and we start talking about Iran. And the voice of God comes over and it's Kara Swisher going, you don't know what you're talking about.
And then she comes out and everyone goes crazy. People like, do like Kara. And she goes, you don't know what you're talking about. I'm like, well, that's not helpful. Who should we have? And she goes, well, I brought a friend. And then Secretary Clinton comes walking out.

**Kara Swisher** (2:45)
Hillary Clinton, yep.

**Scott Galloway** (2:46)
And she got a stand, she got like a two minute standing ovation.

**Kara Swisher** (2:50)
She did. People like her. Yeah, people like her.

**Scott Galloway** (2:52)
And she was, you know, I'm curious to get your thoughts, but Ayo was very intimidated. You were.

**Kara Swisher** (2:58)
You didn't interject, I noticed, but go ahead.

**Scott Galloway** (3:00)
Yeah.
But two, I got really sad. I just thought, it took me back to 10 years.

**Kara Swisher** (3:07)
Yeah.

**Scott Galloway** (3:08)
How would the nation be different if we had elected?

**Kara Swisher** (3:12)
Someone this intelligent.

**Scott Galloway** (3:13)
So Secretary Clinton.

**Kara Swisher** (3:14)
Yeah.

**Scott Galloway** (3:15)
And you don't know, right? Maybe America needed to just, maybe America needed a weirdness to bounce back stronger, which is my silver lining here, hopefully. But it just be interesting to try and game theory out how the world would look different right now.

**Kara Swisher** (3:31)
Yeah, you just never know. She might have gotten it somewhere. Who knows? I mean, what was really interesting was how she thinks in paragraphs. Her intelligence is so- I was- The reason I thought she'd be good for this is because we don't know what we're talking about when we're talking about her. And she does. She's been in the room with these people, whether it's Ukraine, she's been in that deal.
She understands and can really game it out too, and really does understand. One of the things that- she doesn't get the credit for how prescient she was about Donald Trump too.