6-11-26 Why the Dollar Still Rules - Brent Johnson Interview artwork

6-11-26 Why the Dollar Still Rules - Brent Johnson Interview

The Real Investment Show Podcast

June 11, 2026

Is the U.S. Dollar really collapsing, or is the world still trapped in a dollar-based system with no true alternative? Today's discussion breaks down the myths behind de-dollarization, why BRICS nations still face trust problems, and how the global monetary system depends on U.S.
Speakers: Brent Johnson, Lance Roberts
**Brent Johnson** (0:03)
Yeah.

**Lance Roberts** (0:17)
Check one, two, check one, two. So, Brent, good to see you again, buddy.

**Brent Johnson** (0:22)
Yep.

**Lance Roberts** (0:24)
You kind of know the narrative. Luke Roman's just driving me completely insane on X.
So-

**Brent Johnson** (0:33)
Well, it's just, yeah, yeah, yeah. I agree.

**Lance Roberts** (0:36)
Now, we're not going to name names, right? We're going to be polite.
But if you want to drop a hint at who it might be, that would be okay. Like, you know, if you can't see the forest for the trees, I mean, you could do something like that.

**Brent Johnson** (0:48)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

**Lance Roberts** (0:50)
But no, seriously, I kind of want to start out today's conversation. Just, you know, I'll do a little bit of an intro, just talking about kind of the four, the big death of the dollar narratives. And I'm telling you this so you can say, that sounds good or can we also do this or whatever, right?

**Brent Johnson** (1:06)
Yep.

**Lance Roberts** (1:07)
Just kind of lay out the four kind of death of the dollar narratives. And then we'll just kind of go through, look, let's break this down. I think the big problem is for most people that get these narratives is they just don't understand the plumbing of how the dollar works in terms of the reserve currency. You know, again, like Luke Roman was like, oh, US dollar swaps, the reason the Fed's doing that is to keep there from being just a run on treasuries. I'm like, no, you're a fucking idiot.
So, and I've actually got a couple of articles I'm writing that will come out after this interview. After we do this interview today, I've got one coming out tomorrow and one next Friday, which is kind of going through the US dollar dominance as well. So I'll have this interview to kind of back up those articles as well. But anyway, we'll just kind of go through it. We'll just we're just going to talk, have a conversation. But the kind of the goal is, is without getting too far into the weeds. Lay out the case. Look, it doesn't matter what you think about the dollar. It doesn't, you know, because like one of the big stories is, oh, the dollar is being debased. No, that's inflation.
And you haven't invested your dollars and you're losing purchasing power to inflation. That's going to happen to any asset you don't invest. But, you know, it's just kind of help people that listen to the show kind of just understand the basic dynamics of the dollar, kind of work through these narratives and just kind of break them down a little bit.

**Brent Johnson** (2:27)
OK. And just just so you know, I'm actually working. I haven't written a report on the dollar itself for quite a while.

**Lance Roberts** (2:33)
Yeah.

**Brent Johnson** (2:33)
But I'm I'm working on one now that's going to be released early to mid-June. OK.
And if you want, yes, you know, when that gets released, we can we will send it to you for free. But it's going to be it's a paid for thing. But but I can give your readers like a discount or something, you know, send you a link or something if you want to. Absolutely.

**Lance Roberts** (2:56)
Absolutely.

**Brent Johnson** (2:56)
Yeah.

**Lance Roberts** (2:57)
When when when when are you going to release that? This might be actually a good promo for that.

**Brent Johnson** (3:02)
When when you when you when you it's sometime between June 1st and June 15th, I don't know for sure. But first to sometime in the first two weeks of June, when we when we.

**Lance Roberts** (3:12)
So I am going to give you a deadline to have this release between June the 1st and June the 8th.

**Brent Johnson** (3:19)
OK.

**Lance Roberts** (3:21)
And the reason is, is that this this interview we're doing now is going to air June the 10th.

**Brent Johnson** (3:28)
OK, sorry, June the 11th.

**Lance Roberts** (3:29)
Sorry, June the 11th. Right. And so what I want to do, actually, I'm teaching on the date you're going to have till the 10th. I just need you to have this available on the 11th, because so we'll talk about the article today. And, you know, I don't know how your code system works. You know, if you want to throw me a code now, throw me a code later, whatever, we'll insert that into the video. So we'll promote it on the video.

**Brent Johnson** (3:52)
Oh, yeah, I'll get it for you. I'll get it for you. I have a guy that kind of does all that stuff for me.

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