#3521 Below Deck Med S11E13 Part One: Sink or Swim

**Ben Mandelker** (0:30)
Ben Mandelker, joining me today on this momentous Below Deck Mediterranean recap is the one and only, the fearless Ronnie Karam. How are you, Ronnie?

**Ronnie Karam** (0:41)
Hello, how are you?

**Ronnie Karam** (0:43)
I'm doing great.

**Ben Mandelker** (0:45)
Good, good, I'm just fabulous.

**Ronnie Karam** (0:47)
I really don't have a lot of fear, actually, but I don't think it's like bold thing. I think it's more of like a, kind of a stupidity thing. One of those people will just walk into the road.

**Ben Mandelker** (0:59)
I would not characterize myself as someone who has too much fear. I think I have, it's more like I'm just full of fear. It's like, it's not that I have a certain amount of fear in me, I'm just nothing but fear, right? It's like, and I have the water can't be wet, like the water is wet, like, you know, it's like I am.

**Ronnie Karam** (1:19)
Water can't be wet, it makes you wet.

**Ben Mandelker** (1:21)
It makes you wet, right? Like, I am fear. So it's not like I have fear in me, or I have a certain, like, I'm, you know, it's like, it's just, it's not even a, it's just a state. It's not even a state, it's just, it is. Like, and I'm talking like Bethany now. But we are really excited because we're going on tour soon.
We'll have the dates and all that ready soon enough. We're just waiting, waiting for the, we're waiting for the signal from on high to announce when those things will go on sale. But we are, we're coming to a city near you. Don't you worry. We'll have that, if you miss the city list, it's on a previous episode, we're not going to go through it today.
But we will have it. We will have it soon enough.
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**SPEAKER_5** (2:30)
Yeah.

**Ben Mandelker** (2:31)
That's so exciting. Do it right now. Life is happening.

**SPEAKER_5** (2:34)
It's the new episode.

**Ben Mandelker** (2:36)
Life is happening so fast right now.
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**Ronnie Karam** (2:55)
Do it. Today it's Below Deck Med S11E13, ding, ding.

**Ben Mandelker** (3:02)
Yes.

**Ronnie Karam** (3:03)
It's also the day that Nathan was supposed to show up to court and did not show up to court.
And so the witness against him presumably Gale, still not being mentioned in news articles, but showed up with witnesses.
And he was convicted in his absence. Apparently he fled the country. Nobody knows where yet. So he's a wanted man, this fucking asshole. They also released details of what he did to Gale, which are-

**Ben Mandelker** (3:31)
Yeah, they were terrible.

**Ronnie Karam** (3:33)
Horrible.

**Ben Mandelker** (3:34)
So let me tell you something. I have a bad feeling this is gonna end badly. I'm telling you this right now. Like, you've fled Australia and he's also a fugitive in Ireland.
Like, this is not gonna end well for anyone.

**Ronnie Karam** (3:49)
For assault as well. Yeah.

**Ben Mandelker** (3:51)
So yeah.

**Ronnie Karam** (3:56)
Yeah. So pretty, pretty gross. So, you know, another week in the row, fuck that guy.
But otherwise, there is another guy who's terrible on this show, and he is the main guy. I mean, nothing compared to Nathan. I don't think we need to start comparing abuse to anything. Nathan's gonna win in that department. But this guy is also terrible, and the barf's on a plate. So I love that for him on National TV.

**Ben Mandelker** (4:22)
Oh, that guy. Yeah. I thought you were talking about Joe. I was like, yeah, Joe's bad too.
I think- Joe sucks too.
This is one of those weird moments that happens to us once in a while, where, you know, like, the preamble is, Nathan fucking sucks. Fucking sucks. If you read those details, trick or warning is obviously for many people, like, it's vivid and it's scary and it's terrifying. And then now we have to go and recap this show where Nathan isn't necessarily being cast in a villainous light. And so, like, I know, like, I'm going to be commenting based off of the storytelling that's presented to us, which is that there are times in today's episode where we'll be like, fucking Joe, and like, Nathan is right. But there will also be times where I'll say that Joe is right. But just so you know, when we say these things, like, we are fully, or I should just say it for myself, I'm fully aware that Nathan is terrible and a monster. And he's been shitty for a while, and now it's just like, more has just been exposed. But, you know, I kind of felt like we have to sometimes say that because people will be like, how could you even say anything positive about this guy? It's like, well, just talking about what's on the TV show at the moment. Well, it's the old Bravo cadendron. Not that I can say anything too positive, yeah.