#3518 RHOC S20E08 Part Two: Same Old Songria

**Ben Mandelker** (0:21)
Hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. This is part two of the recap. If you missed part one, go check out your podcast feed. It's right there. And without further ado, let's get right back into the recap.

**Ronnie Karam** (0:34)
So Carmella and Heather are talking about Vegas and Carmella was not happy once she thought about what happened in Vegas. And she's like, I'm a chronic over-thinker. Literally something no one's ever accused this person of. I can guarantee you that right now.
No, Mike, really?

**Ben Mandelker** (1:02)
So yeah, she talks about how basically she says something happens then she ruminates about something later. She's a slow processor, essentially is what she's trying to say. And now she's sort of now wondering if Vicky's apology, was it sincere or is Vicky just trying to get herself out of the hot water and then Carmella naturally takes it to a place we were not expecting. She goes, you know, it's just that like you lose your filter when you get older. Because I think back to Betty White when she was alive, like she would say whatever she wanted because she was Betty White. And then they show footage, archival footage was of Betty White and Heather. And was Wendy Malik in this footage?
Or is that just my brain playing tricks on me?

**Ronnie Karam** (1:41)
Your brain puts her there. You're like, I swear to God, I saw her at Popeyes last night.

**Ben Mandelker** (1:46)
Wendy Malik. Wendy Malik was at my place last night getting drunk with me.

**Ronnie Karam** (1:52)
But that was funny. She's like, she reminds me of Betty White. Oh, really? Roll the clip of me and my good friend, RIP, Betty White. Betty, Betty.

**Ben Mandelker** (2:02)
Ah, yeah, she was like a mother to me when I worked with her because I've been on television. So basically, Carmella is saying that Vicki is like late stage Betty White right now.

**Ronnie Karam** (2:17)
Yeah, it was kind of weird. They started playing the Golden Girls-esque music. To be like, oh, Vicki, she's just like Betty White. No, she's not. I would like to think that even Betty White would have kicked her in the net.

**Ben Mandelker** (2:31)
Yeah, I think Vicki is more in the mama's family vertical. So Heather is like...

**Ronnie Karam** (2:36)
She's more of a Naomi. A Naomi.

**Ben Mandelker** (2:38)
She is a Naomi. She's 100% Naomi. Oh my God. So Heather's like, I mean, you know, she's just hilarious. And that's why I think everyone goes, oh, it's just Vicki. And then it cuts to Jen being like, oh, you know, Vicki, that's just Vicki.
She just says stuff. What is that? Oh, well, it's a lot.

**Ronnie Karam** (3:00)
Well, Carmella, she was just really grateful for the apology instead of taking Vicki to task. And you know what? I was so grateful for her being grateful. I mean, what a good person.

**Ben Mandelker** (3:09)
Well, it's not only that. Tamara was upset when we were at the gambling tables and Heather was advocating for Carmella. And we see again that Heather is like, this girl is fucking crying. Why are you doing this?

**SPEAKER_3** (3:22)
And Tamara's like, yeah, I know, but you thought it was weird, huh?

**Ben Mandelker** (3:26)
Well, I said to her, it's weird that you said to her that I'm going to give you $20,000.

**SPEAKER_3** (3:33)
Yeah, but you said that. Now you're trying to be over here being a savior. So if you think it's weird that someone's getting $20,000, you should be happy that everybody's bullying them and making them cry, Heather.

**Ronnie Karam** (3:42)
I mean, come on.

**SPEAKER_3** (3:44)
Yeah, yeah.

**Ronnie Karam** (3:46)
Basic attitude, right? So then Shannon, now the thing is, Shannon's like, well, she said Heather was anti-Carmella and now all of a sudden she's trying to save Carmella. Listen, you can say, I think this person, listen, I think this new girl's probably too trashy for us. It's not the nicest thing to say, but it turns out to be kind of what she says. Like, okay, we're casting new people and this is who we get. This person seems like a trashy person. And then you get to know them and they're kind of nice. And then you see them getting bullied by the group and you stand up for that person. What's so wrong?
The thought that you have to be like, wow, my first impression was that I don't like this person. So then after that, you just have to be mean to them ever.