#3502 Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip S502: Save the Last Pants

**Ben Mandelker** (0:21)
Hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I am Ben Mandelker, and joining me today is the one and only Ronnie Karam. Hi Ronnie, how's it going?

**SPEAKER_2** (0:34)
Hello.

**Ronnie Karam** (0:35)
Good, happy Monday. We did it.

**Ben Mandelker** (0:39)
We did it, happy Monday to you too. Today we are talking about Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip, roaring 20th, which is funny because you know what today is for me? It's my roaring 25th, 25 years of living in Los Angeles. It may have been yesterday. I think it's today, but today it's an anniversary. 25 years in, who would have thought that this is where the journey would take me is sitting here talking about a whole bunch of other women who've been on a journey.
It's wild, but it's exciting.

**Ronnie Karam** (1:17)
Ultimate Girls Trip, get a jab.

**Ben Mandelker** (1:19)
Well, you've been there for, I think, actually, like pretty much over half of my journey. So thanks for being here.

**SPEAKER_2** (1:27)
Thanks for being part of it.

**Ronnie Karam** (1:29)
I got here 22 years ago.

**Ben Mandelker** (1:32)
Wow.

**Ronnie Karam** (1:33)
23

**Ben Mandelker** (1:33)
It's crazy.

**Ronnie Karam** (1:34)
Actually, it's almost my 23rd, because I came on my birthday. That's when I moved on my birthday. That's when I first moved out of my house when I was 18 I moved to New York and I moved to LA on my birthday when I was 28
What an old bitch.

**Ben Mandelker** (1:50)
Well, I will always remember my dad moved me out here and then we flew out here to LA. I had to sort of like just come out here like spur of the moment, because I got a job as a PA on a TV show. Andy Richter controls the universe, for those who remember that show, which was really good. And then, so my dad flew me out here and we stayed overnight in a hotel. And then the next day, I moved in with my cousin for a few weeks and he flew back to New York. And then that first, that Friday night, I went to a Johnny Rockets on La Cienega. And I just was alone and I was just sitting there. I was like, oh my God, I moved to Los Angeles. I'm just like here in Los Angeles. And I was looking at the traffic going by on La Cienega. And in my mind, I was like, well, it's LA. There's celebrities everywhere. And I swear to God, I convinced myself that there was like a Nissan Maxima that drove by. And I'll always remember this. I convinced myself that Michelle Pfeiffer was driving it. I was like, I think that was Michelle Pfeiffer. I was like, wow, there are celebrities everywhere. And I was like, no, that couldn't have been Michelle Pfeiffer. That car wasn't nice enough.
But I think it was Michelle Pfeiffer. And I was just so convinced that first night.
And well.

**Ronnie Karam** (3:04)
Then you realized you live in a city where a lot of people look like Michelle Pfeiffer.

**Ben Mandelker** (3:08)
That's right.

**Ronnie Karam** (3:09)
The most gorgeous people in every place move. Move here and you just watch them out the diner window.
Could have been the fire truck driver. You never know.

**Ben Mandelker** (3:20)
Who would know that five years later, the Real Housewives would then enter our world.
And 20 years after that, we'd be sitting here talking about them, actually. And as long as I'm waxing poetic, I remember I didn't really watch season one and season two. I sort of like sampled a little bit, but I didn't get really into it because the show was so much slower back then. It was just like, here's some women doing stuff. And I tried to get into it. And I remember in 2007, I went to France and Vicki and Tammy Nickerbocker were on my plane. I've told this story a million times. And it still kills me that that was like, just before I started watching the housewives. And I could have like, man, I would have pumped them for so much information back then. It kills me, kills me. I took an entire flight to a different continent with Vicki Gunthelsen and Tammy Nickerbocker. Ugh, could have been great.

**Ronnie Karam** (4:15)
Tammy Nickerbocker.
I hope somewhere Tammy Nickerbocker is listening to this being like, that's right. Still got it.

**Ben Mandelker** (4:22)
Well, she is busy-

**Ronnie Karam** (4:23)
People still bragging about seeing me on a plane.

**Ben Mandelker** (4:26)
She is busy hosting the Great British Bake Off, I believe. I think I've seen her there the past few years.