# 3452: House of the Dragon S03E04: Smellicle Ball

**SPEAKER_2** (0:06)
One, two, three, four.

**Ronnie Karam** (0:36)
Well, hello and welcome to Winter is Crappening. I'm Ronnie and that's Ben over there. Hello, Ben.

**Ben Mandelker** (0:43)
Hi Ronnie, how's it going?

**Ronnie Karam** (0:45)
Good, we were off last week, so we missed an episode of House of the Dragon, and it was a good one. This season has stayed pretty good.

**Ben Mandelker** (0:55)
What do you think?
It's so good, I love this season. This is the first season of this show where I felt like I genuinely really am loving the show. I felt like, especially the first season, I did not like, obviously, all that time jumping, all the timeline skipping. It was just incredibly annoying. It's hard to get into the characters. It's hard to care about what was going on. Last season was definitely better, but it would still sometimes be a bit slow. Now, what I really enjoy about this third season is that the stakes have been established and there's lots of different factions and groups that we're tracking. And that was what I always felt made Game of Thrones so special, was that you have this rich tapestry of people and houses and families, all with their own motivations. And it was always so interesting to see the way they would all interweave and how one person's decision in one part of the story would actually have a huge ripple effect in this part of the story and undermine plans and everything would go wrong. And I felt like especially in the first season and somewhat in last season, we didn't really get that. And now I feel like the show feels like a complete show and it feels thorough and rich. And as a result, I'm way more invested than I have been in the ever before.

**Ronnie Karam** (2:16)
Yeah. Well, I mean, I've loved it since the start, but I do see definitely see what you're saying. And this season is the best. I mean, it's been so good. I love all the dragons.
It's like massive dragon payoff, I feel like. I mean, this one we see mostly dead dragons. Okay. Do you think Sunfire is dead or alive? He's got to be alive now, right? Is that what they're doing?

**Ben Mandelker** (2:39)
I think Sunfire is now alive. I think they just gave us breadcrumbs. I mean, I thought that Sunfire's eyeball was gonna open up.
I was like bracing for it.

**Ronnie Karam** (2:48)
Me too. So do you think the witch is gonna bring the dragon back to life or is it just in some kind of extended coma?

**Ben Mandelker** (2:55)
I'm not sure. Is the witch gonna make Aegon like that first white walker? Wasn't that like a thing back in like season one?
Like, oh my God, is Aegon gonna become that white walker that we all hate? Remember the king?

**Ronnie Karam** (3:11)
The main white walker? I don't think we ever found out who the main white walker is.

**Ben Mandelker** (3:15)
But weren't there a lot of theories that was gonna be Aegon? Cause wasn't there like a shot of Aegon where you saw like a blue in his open, like under his eye patch, there was blue. And everyone's like, it's like the white walker. Maybe the witch is gonna turn him into the white walker.

**Ronnie Karam** (3:29)
Oh, well that would be good.
I don't know. I fell for every theory of who the white walker was, that it was Bran or that it was, now people are saying Damon or I don't know now, but since the show's been on, people have said maybe Damon's the white walker. There's so many people that could be him that kind of look like him in a way when they show him. I don't know who it is. George Bush, I don't know.

**Ben Mandelker** (3:53)
Either way, it's been great. I've also been so happy to see the show back in King's Landing. I feel like the show is just so much more interesting in King's Landing than when they're in Dragonstone. I always feel like Dragonstone is so dreary. That was the same how I felt both in the original Game of Thrones and this one. King's Landing is just like where it's at. There's more fun stuff happening.

**Ronnie Karam** (4:16)
There's more interesting. I'm a city boy.

**Ben Mandelker** (4:17)
I'm a city boy. Like Dragonstone is so blah. Like the only place that's worse than this.

**Ronnie Karam** (4:23)
There's more than the chilies here. There's like little mom and pop places that haven't been completely drowned out.

**Ben Mandelker** (4:32)
I think the only places worse than Dragonstone are Winterfell. I'll say it. I think Winterfell sucks. I hate Winterfell. And then obviously the wall. Ugh.