If you're not motivated by the fear of losing, I think you're asleep at the wheel. At the very beginning, there's three reasons why pre-seed companies fail. They run out of money, they run out of hope and co-founder disputes. There are three types of people. Those who make it happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened. Pitching VCs is like a game of poker. You should never reveal too much information about what you're seeking. I put all my Thiel Fellowship money, and I invested it in Adam Guild and other amazing entrepreneurs.
I think when it's all said and done, it will be in the eight figures. If you back someone who's above average IQ, very smart and never give up, of course they'll succeed. The VCs will say anything to get you to sign right there and then. Anything. For every anthropic employee who's making 20 to 100 million, there's 7,000 block employees being laid off. It's not sustainable. You can't have 50,000 people with all the money. I think actually there could be a revolution in our lifetime. Something has to change. Do you think you will make more money from your investing than you will do not pay?
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