**Rory O'Driscoll** (0:00)
Everyone's business model gets a lot better if the two frontier labs can't extract about $100 billion of revenue this year from the businesses. The more you believe they're massively dangerous, the more you believe you're building the bomb here, the more the antropic position feels principled.
**Jason Lemkin** (0:16)
I think these models are very risky, and I think it's an argument to keep the open weight out of the US. And now you want me to bring Kimmy and Quinn in? No way is the CIO going to allow it. That is banned, right?
**Rory O'Driscoll** (0:27)
If you're willing to unfable, would you be willing to run a red-blooded American open weight model?
**Jason Lemkin** (0:33)
Every company in the next 24 months will have a security breach due to an LLM agent. Every single company. And they've already had it, and they're not disclosing it.
**Rory O'Driscoll** (0:40)
People are just getting mildly scared about the bet. Anyone who is capital and can build compute can sell compute.
**Jason Lemkin** (0:47)
And the boring company to me is crazier than Adams. Anybody not working at least as hard as Mark Benioff is just not going to make it.
**Harry Stebbings** (0:54)
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