Topics: Investing, Business, News, Tech News
**Rory O'Driscoll** (0:00)
Absolutely right on trend, absolutely wrong on portfolio construction. It's almost like it was inevitable. If you bought in in April, May or June, you've been wiped. We did a hedge fund, but it appears it wasn't hedged.
And we lost all our money in a week.
**Nikesh Arora** (0:14)
In the long term, average intelligence is gonna be free, and the average intelligence will get smarter. Land, permits, energy, compute. This is the thing that is gonna get priced for the next three to five years. Yes, it's perfectly possible that there is a public market dislocation because the players at the tables might change.
**Rory O'Driscoll** (0:34)
Yeah, Moonshot is happy, Nvidia is happy, Enterprise is happy, OpenAI is very, very sad. You're right, that's the dislocation. God, those were really strong numbers. I mean, all these people are selling a shit ton of compute.
**Jason Lampkin** (0:47)
If Palantir can do it, they came back from 15% growth four years ago. Why can't you do it, kids? Work harder.
**Nikesh Arora** (0:53)
I think it's a bit of a gold rush moment. I think every consumer app will get rewritten in the next five to 10 years.
**Rory O'Driscoll** (0:58)
In the face of insatiable demand, all things are possible.
**Harry Stebbings** (1:01)
This is 20VC with me, Harry Stebbings. It's my favorite show of the week. Rory O'Driscoll, Jason Lampkin and whoop, whoop, whoop, hold up. Nikesh Arora joins us in the studio.
**Rory O'Driscoll** (1:11)
Oh, yeah, baby.
**Harry Stebbings** (1:12)
Palo Alto Networks, $280 billion company CEO joins us in the studio for this incredible session today. And we discuss Leo Aschenbrenner's situational awareness imploding. Sad face. Airtable being acquired by Bending Spoons for $1.285 billion.
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