1 Zionist vs 10 Pro-Palestine Activists | DSH #2084 artwork

1 Zionist vs 10 Pro-Palestine Activists | DSH #2084

Digital Social Hour

July 28, 2026

Outnumbered #7 | DSH #2084 Nick sits down for a heated 1 vs 10 debate on Israel, Gaza, Hamas, Zionism, Palestinian statehood, October 7th, and the history behind the conflict.
Speakers: Nick Matau, Sean Kelly, Matthew Murphy, Ahmed Soboh, Bennett Haselton, Vem Miller
**Nick Matau** (0:00)
I am so sick of the virtue signaling of the pro-Palestinians. Stop pretending like you guys care about every single human life equally. It is bullshit.

**SPEAKER_2** (0:07)
And then you're sitting here defending the murder of men, women and children, and you're in a disgrace to the uniform that you wore and the country that you claim that you served from.

**Nick Matau** (0:17)
Israel would have gotten the death toll that we've gotten in almost three years, would have happened in two weeks if they had the same intent as Hamas. And again, that's with significantly more capability.

**SPEAKER_3** (0:26)
Do you think Americans would be okay with that elementary school killing all the civilians there just to get to some terrorists? That's my question.

**Nick Matau** (0:33)
I don't particularly care about your emotional anecdotes, okay?

**SPEAKER_2** (0:36)
Problem.

**SPEAKER_4** (0:37)
You're accusing Palestine of being uncivilized because they're fighting for their freedom.

**Nick Matau** (0:40)
No, I call them uncivilized because they blow body parts all over in pizza shops and spiral pizza shops and they women and they have taken nine month old babies and have controlled them. The youngest death in October 7th was a ten hour old baby.

**SPEAKER_2** (0:55)
You're like a satanic Zionist. That's what you are, right?

**Sean Kelly** (1:05)
All right, guys, we got another one on 10 today. We got Nick here today versus 10 We have three prompts. The first prompt is there was slash is no genocide in Gaza. We're going to get it started.

**Matthew Murphy** (1:15)
What's up, man?

**Sean Kelly** (1:17)
All right, Matt. Let's get it going.

**SPEAKER_2** (1:19)
All right, man. So you said you served in the military, correct?

**Matthew Murphy** (1:22)
Yeah, about 12 years.

**SPEAKER_2** (1:23)
OK, what did you do?

**Nick Matau** (1:24)
I was a nuclear engineer on fast attack submarines.

**SPEAKER_2** (1:26)
So you've never been in combat?

**Matthew Murphy** (1:27)
No.

**SPEAKER_2** (1:28)
Never been on the ground?

**Nick Matau** (1:29)
No. I was on submarines.

**SPEAKER_2** (1:31)
OK, so on submarines. OK, cool. So you know nothing about on the ground conflict in Gaza, Palestine? Have you been there?

**Nick Matau** (1:39)
Yes.

**SPEAKER_2** (1:39)
OK, when?

**Nick Matau** (1:41)
Last year and also about a month ago, and I don't think I know nothing, but if you're implying that...

**SPEAKER_2** (1:48)
Where do you get your information?

**Nick Matau** (1:50)
Research? Where?
I actually research mostly pro-Palestinian stuff because I like to know what their arguments are. Before, I do this almost on a nightly basis, so most of the time, a lot of it's Al Jazeera, telegram groups that are pro-Khamas, Palestinian, Al-Adhabia, which is more... It's not super, or either way, it's Saudi Arabia, Mujaheddin with the Lebanese one that's pro-Ezbollah. That's normally, but I read everything, right? I don't mind. I'm not the type of person in that, and a lot of Zionists do this, where they're like... Someone's like, I have proof. Here's an Al Jazeera article, and they immediately go, I don't want to hear it. It's Al Jazeera, and it's like, no, I'll read it and debunk it if I find it to be wrong.

**SPEAKER_2** (2:29)
Okay. So are you Jewish? No. Okay.
So you're pro-Israel, Zionist, not Jewish?

**Nick Matau** (2:35)
Just like most Zionists in the world, yes.

**SPEAKER_2** (2:37)
Okay. Most Zionists in the world are not Jewish?

**Nick Matau** (2:39)
Not Jewish, correct.

**SPEAKER_2** (2:40)
How did you come up with that? That's a pretty egregious statement. I have no idea. I don't count.

**Nick Matau** (2:44)
Just take a guess.

**SPEAKER_2** (2:45)
I mean, probably six million, right? Somewhere around there.
I'm kidding, man. That's a number of Holocaust. Anyways.

**Nick Matau** (2:52)
You're denying the Holocaust or something?

**SPEAKER_2** (2:54)
Well, I think the Holocaust didn't happen.

**Nick Matau** (2:55)
You're talking about genocide, but you're denying the Holocaust? Okay.

**SPEAKER_2** (2:58)
Well, 271,000 Jews died in Germany, according to the American Red Cross, correct? No, it wasn't. Actually, it was.

**Nick Matau** (3:04)
No, the American Red Cross is counting.

**SPEAKER_2** (3:05)
American Red Cross, 271,000.

**Nick Matau** (3:07)
I'll answer that. If you read the report, it actually was only talking about specific concentration camps, not even the most deadly one. Also, on top of that, the American Red Cross didn't actually get access to them. They were getting the numbers from only people that had death certificates, which we know, and Germany themselves admitted that they didn't write death certificates by far for most of them.

**SPEAKER_2** (3:24)
Well, we can get to the Holocaust in a second.

**Nick Matau** (3:26)
Or we can. We can stick to the topic.

**SPEAKER_2** (3:28)
Well, do you know how Israel came to exist? Because that's how we're going to get to the stoppages. Okay, let's get there. So how did Israel come to exist, in your opinion?

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