1 Black Conservative vs 5 Black Liberals (HEATED DEBATE) | DSH #2168

Chad Jackson (0:00)

Owning a slave in the 18th century is not disgusting.

Erica (0:03)

It messes me up that you would down another black man or black leader whether they was perfect or not, just to make yourself look good.

Chad Jackson (0:11)

What most people understand about reparations is that a check is owed. That's what most people understand about it. It kind of appeals to this kind of bitterness, this kind of cynicism, this kind of covetousness that a lot of so-called black people have today, unfortunately.

Erica (0:26)

Are you just trying to say black people bad? Like, what are we talking?

Chad Jackson (0:29)

I mean, you can...

Erica (0:30)

Don't ask me, I want you to answer that question.

Arthur (0:34)

George Washington, I think, is a great American hero, and he owns slave. I think it's disgusting.

Chad Jackson (0:38)

A lot of people own slaves.

Erica (0:39)

No, yeah.

Chad Jackson (0:40)

A lot of colored people own slaves.

Sean Kelly (0:49)

Okay, and welcome back. I'm Sarah the Raging Tomato, moderator of another amazing debate here at Digital Social Hour. We're going to have some fun today with Chad O. Jackson here on his 1v10. Chad, why don't you kick us off with your first prompt?

Chad Jackson (1:02)

My name is Chad Jackson, and my first prompt is, black people do not deserve reparations.

Sean Kelly (1:08)

Beautiful. All right, Ethan, if you want to carry us away.

Ethan (1:11)

All right. First off, Chad, Ethan, pleasure to meet you.

Chad Jackson (1:13)

Pleasure meeting you as well.

Ethan (1:15)

So I think the first thing that I want to do is understand exactly what we mean by the proposition, black people don't deserve reparations. So do you have a definition for reparations, just to make sure we're on the same page?

Chad Jackson (1:28)

My understanding of reparations is the idea of repairing an injustice, or typically how you see it used by the advocacy community today, is that due to slavery and subsequently Jim Crow, there are disparities that exist between so-called black people and so-called white people, and thus reparations are needed to repair the disparities, or to basically close the gap between black and white.

Ethan (1:57)

Okay, and you use the term so-called.

Why are you throwing in, I guess, so-called? What is that?

Chad Jackson (2:08)

Do you want to keep it on the subject, or you want, I mean, I'm happy to tell you?

Ethan (2:12)

If you can do it quickly, it probably is more relevant.

Chad Jackson (2:15)

Because that's a conversation in itself.

Ethan (2:16)

Okay, in that case, we won't go into it.

Sure, there's black people, we can both agree on that. So, now, the idea of repairing injustices, would you agree that this idea is something that is in the context of an apology, and also some type of material compensation as well for reparations?

Chad Jackson (2:36)

I'm sure there's people that agree with that, or people who would say that that's... Because that's the thing, when it comes to reparations, of course, depending on who you're talking to, there's not a one size fits all answer. Everybody has a different answer for what reparations looks like.

So, yeah, I mean, if your question is, are there people who want that form of reparations, then yeah.

Ethan (2:58)

The question is, though, since you have the proposition, when you're saying reparations, do you mean that, like, black people do not deserve, you know, a...

One, like, you could say, like, a verbal or, like, written apology and, like, material address. So just understand what you mean by reparations.

Chad Jackson (3:16)

Okay, well, let me just cut straight to it. So when it comes to this whole notion of reparations and how it's popularly advocated for today.

Right. And of course, you have different people of different ilks who are advocating for it, and it looks like different things. So when it comes to reparations, it's predicated on this notion, once again, that so-called black people, after emancipation, have not been rendered the necessary justice, they haven't been able to receive monetary or tangible kind of gains after emancipation, and as a result of this, a payment is due of some sort.

Ethan (4:01)

But it's some material thing. So like when you were defining reparations, you do also include like the material aspect of it. So like some type of, okay, I just wanted to make sure that that was on the table on that. Okay, cool. So I think we largely agree with our definition here. And the second thing is, when we're talking about black people, like just to make sure we have the scope down as well, like we're talking about in the context of the United States, right?