You Were Born Telepathic, Then You Forgot. Dr. Diane Hennacy Explains The Science Behind a Savant Telepathy Test That Scored 97% Accuracy, And Why She Thinks We All Still Have It.

**Diane Hennacy** (0:00)
This thing we're calling telepathy is in all of us as infants, we have been talked out of it. Information is being transferred in some way. It could be a shared consciousness, the coherency, which we know exists, especially in primates. I wanted to prove non-locality beyond just particle. It could be precognition, telepathy, remote viewing or clairvoyance. You have all of this physics that people don't bat an eye at. These things could be explained by evoking just one more dimension.

**Mayim Bialik** (0:30)
Dr. Diane Hennacy is a neuropsychiatrist and consciousness expert known for her groundbreaking research on telepathic and extrasensory abilities.

**Diane Hennacy** (0:39)
I'm sort of reverse engineered the brain in a way that most people don't. I thought savant abilities might show as a brain has potential for quantum computation. I've come to a whole other understanding. A lot of it is based on synchrony with other human beings. We as a human species need to get our act together, realizing we aren't part of an interconnected whole.

**Mayim Bialik** (1:01)
How do you test telepathy in a way that is quantifiable?

**Diane Hennacy** (1:05)
What we're seeing is...

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**Mayim Bialik** (1:17)
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**SPEAKER_3** (1:19)
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**Mayim Bialik** (1:31)
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**SPEAKER_3** (1:34)
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**Jonathan Cohen** (1:39)
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**Mayim Bialik** (3:02)
Hi, I'm Mayim Bialik.

**Jonathan Cohen** (3:03)
And I'm Jonathan Cohen.

**Mayim Bialik** (3:04)
And welcome to our breakdown.
Are autistic savants able to demonstrate abilities that potentially challenge everything we know, not only about the human brain, but about consciousness?
We have with us Dr. Diane Hennacy. Dr. Hennacy is the author of the ESP Enigma. She graduated from Johns Hopkins School of Medicine. She taught at Harvard Medical School and was a psychotherapist for 40 years. She's worked intimately with so many in the non-speaking autism savant community. She also launched the Hennacy Institute as a hub for pioneering research and public education in neurodiversity. She's a neuropsychiatrist, neuroscientist, and a consciousness researcher who you may have heard on the telepathy tapes. Some of her research was featured in some of the episodes of the telepathy tapes. Her work with non-speaking autistic individuals has led her to explore some of the most controversial questions in science, including is telepathy real? What is precognition? And can the brain access information beyond conventional models of cognition?

**Jonathan Cohen** (4:09)
This episode really does stretch our understanding about what is real and what we are all capable of.

**Mayim Bialik** (4:14)
It's a pleasure to welcome Dr. Diane Hennacy to The Breakdown. Break it down.

**Diane Hennacy** (4:21)
Yeah, thank you. It's a pleasure.

**Mayim Bialik** (4:23)
You get to study some of the most incredible minds really that we know of. Can you explain what your work is?

**Diane Hennacy** (4:32)
I actually trained as a neuroscientist before neuroscience was even a major and became interested in autism back in 1986 when I was doing my residency at Johns Hopkins Medical School in neuropsychiatry and I met Oliver Sacks and I was really interested in behavioral neurology and in studying neuropsychiatry I was also studying things like cognition and just interested in neurodevelopmental disorders and neurodegenerative disorders as a way of linking brain function to behaviors and cognitions and emotions. So it was my way of studying what's now called consciousness in a way that was really non-invasive and actually helpful to people.