"You Said She's COMPLICIT" - Andrew Wilson GRILLS Candace Owens Over Charlie Kirk Claims artwork

"You Said She's COMPLICIT" - Andrew Wilson GRILLS Candace Owens Over Charlie Kirk Claims

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August 16, 2026

Andrew Wilson challenges Candace Owens over her claims about Erica Kirk and Turning Point USA during a heated discussion surrounding the death of Charlie Kirk.
Speakers: Andrew Wilson, Candace Owens

Topics: Business

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**Andrew Wilson** (0:06)
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**SPEAKER_1** (0:09)
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**Andrew Wilson** (0:10)
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**Candace Owens** (0:22)
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**Andrew Wilson** (0:30)
One thing though that I am, I want to just directly ask you is, do you actually believe that anybody in TP USA or Erica Kirk or Erica actually participated, had foreknowledge of or facilitated the murder of Charlie Kirk?

**Candace Owens** (0:46)
I'm not going to get myself into a legal pickle here. Everything I've said is on my podcast.
I think firmly that if I was the investigating officers, I would see them all and I would ask questions. I would at this phase. I would. OK, what does that mean?

**Andrew Wilson** (1:06)
Does that mean that you do think so?

**Candace Owens** (1:08)
I think it was not a sufficient investigation into what is what we know to be true of 80% of homicides. It's usually conducted by someone you know, right?
And the fact that that was never even considered, that the like I said earlier, the backpack was returned.

**Andrew Wilson** (1:25)
How do you know that was never considered?

**Candace Owens** (1:27)
Because they gave back the backpack as just one example. They gave back the backpack. They gave back the.

**Andrew Wilson** (1:34)
That doesn't show a conspiracy.

**Candace Owens** (1:36)
Well, I mean, it shows that the police trusted everybody and didn't just hold things up for a second.

**Andrew Wilson** (1:41)
They ruled them out as suspects that quickly.

**Candace Owens** (1:44)
I'm not comfortable with that investigation. It's a pretty big organization. There's a hundred million dollar incentive. What I'm saying is his organization had grown to, I think it was a hundred million.

**SPEAKER_4** (1:54)
Plus per year.

**Candace Owens** (1:55)
Yeah, per year. If that's something you want to factor in.

**SPEAKER_4** (1:57)
Your team wants to play a video, if you don't mind. There's a video they want to play of Candace said, it's impossible to not believe Erica's complicit, if you guys want to play that video.

**Candace Owens** (2:08)
Yeah. And so right now, their guys are going out and they're going to look for evidence. And then by May, which is fortunately around the corner, then she'll see what they found. So what the F is that performance? How could you sit up there and say, I, yes, I 100% believe Tyler Robinson did it.
That right there is why it is impossible for me to think that Erica Kirk is not complicit somehow. Because what?

**Andrew Wilson** (2:39)
Those two thoughts actually don't even follow. How would it be the case that even if Erica Kirk did believe that Tyler Robinson was 100% responsible for the death of Charlie Kirk, let's say she believed it with every fiber of her being, believed all the evidence, because she did. She just actually did.
Would it then follow that somehow she's complicit in his death?

**Candace Owens** (3:01)
I didn't say complicit in death. You added those two words.

**Andrew Wilson** (3:05)
Okay, it's what she complicit in.

**Candace Owens** (3:06)
Yes, so sowing this narrative that Tyler Robinson is guilty. So you're chopping up clips. Like I said, you didn't have the confidence to come into the debate. What does that mean? What does complicit mean? We are showing a clip of her on Barry Weiss, which I can't remember the date that she did that interview.
And Erica, when she is asked, are you, do you feel with 100% certainty that Tyler Robinson did this? And she says, I do. Then again, context matters. I sit down with Erica for four hours under the assumption that she had some evidence, right? Like I'm like, I actually, this is why I did not engage in any like Erica, everyone's questioning what she's wearing and all this stuff. I was like, I'm going to wait here because, I don't know, just it feels weird to think that, do I, did I think that some of her mannerisms were weird and stuff like that? Yeah, but that's not, you can't convict somebody on weird mannerisms. And then when I sat down with her and I was expecting for her to say, well, you know, I'm obviously the victim on the case and we got to see the shot, you know, taken or this or that, whatever it is, great, you know, that's why she's being, that's why she has that much confidence two months ago. And when I sat down with her, it was nothing.

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