Wonderful! 421: Not Gonna Rub Stalactites On My Face artwork

Wonderful! 421: Not Gonna Rub Stalactites On My Face

Wonderful!

June 10, 2026

Rachel's favorite here, queer, and big poet! Griffin's favorite jams that you would not bring to a dance party! Music: “Money Won’t Pay” by bo en and Augustus – https://open.spotify.com/album/7n6zRzTrGPIHt0kRvmWoya Lamda Legal: https://lambdalegal.
Speakers: Rachel McElroy, Griffin McElroy
**Rachel McElroy** (0:17)
Hi, this is Rachel McElroy.

**Griffin McElroy** (0:18)
Hello, this is Griffin McElroy.

**Rachel McElroy** (0:19)
And this is Wonderful.

**Griffin McElroy** (0:20)
Welcome to Wonderful. It's a podcast where we talk about things we like that's good that we're into.

**Rachel McElroy** (0:24)
Can I be honest for a second?

**Griffin McElroy** (0:26)
Please.

**Rachel McElroy** (0:28)
And this won't come as a surprise to you. I've been kind of a grump lately.

**Griffin McElroy** (0:33)
Uh-oh.

**Rachel McElroy** (0:35)
We had a particularly taxing weekend with the boys.

**Griffin McElroy** (0:39)
Right.

**Rachel McElroy** (0:40)
Little Son is just being kind of mean lately.

**Griffin McElroy** (0:43)
Just a sort of good way to put it, just sort of just mean to us all the time.

**Rachel McElroy** (0:50)
Yesterday, we went outside and we have been graced lately with a very small bunny.

**Griffin McElroy** (0:56)
Oh, God, this brickin guy.

**Rachel McElroy** (0:59)
It's a baby bunny. It's the cutest thing I've ever seen. And he's there most of the time when we go outside. Small Son, because he's been so mean lately, we went outside yesterday and he was like, where's the bunny? And I was like, oh, I don't know. And he was like, I want to see the bunny. And I was like, I don't really have any control over where the bunny appears. And he was like, I want to see the bunny.
I was like, I can't do anything to help you, sir.

**Griffin McElroy** (1:25)
Yeah.

**Rachel McElroy** (1:28)
Yeah, anyway, so.

**Griffin McElroy** (1:29)
I'll tell you what it was, is I made a mistake once of the bunny.
I want to pick him up and rub him all over my face. I harbor a lot of feelings about nature that when I say them out loud, people are very quick to say, you can't pick the bunny up and rub it all over your face. You can't give that duck a big hoagie sandwich because it'll die from it. And I understand these things now, but they wanted the bunny to come closer so that we could all pick it up and rub it all over our face. And so I played a video on my phone of bunny noises and it kind of worked. And so I do think he probably is under the impression that we can summon the bunny by playing YouTube videos of bunny noises.

**Rachel McElroy** (2:12)
Anyway, I kind of, I feel like I kind of carried my frustrated mood into this morning and then having to prepare for Wonderful almost felt like a punishment.

**Griffin McElroy** (2:23)
Okay.

**Rachel McElroy** (2:23)
In that it was like, yeah, grumpy Gus.

**Griffin McElroy** (2:28)
That's not a great term to use. Cause unrelated grumpy, not the actual grumpy Gus.

**Rachel McElroy** (2:33)
Grumpy Gloria, now you have to find something you like and talk about it. So get it together, lady.

**Griffin McElroy** (2:44)
Is there a but? It feels like all of this is like leading up to a, but then I realized.

**Rachel McElroy** (2:52)
Well, I went to exercise, which helped a lot. Yeah. And then I found a topic that was really nice and I was excited to talk about.

**Griffin McElroy** (2:59)
Okay, good.

**Rachel McElroy** (3:00)
So yeah, so I turned it around, I'm just saying, I want to be honest with our listeners that sometimes when I sit down and I have to think of something nice, I feel very surly and angsty about it.

**Griffin McElroy** (3:08)
Sure.

**Rachel McElroy** (3:09)
But I'm not in the mood to do that.

**Griffin McElroy** (3:11)
But don't blame Rachel. If you're listening to this episode and you're like, dang, that was a surly one, it's not Rachel's fault.

**SPEAKER_5** (3:17)
It's our son's fault.

**Rachel McElroy** (3:19)
Yes, this is what I realized. I was feeling like, why am I so grumpy this morning? And then I realized, oh, it's because Small Son has been mean to me for like four days straight and I haven't really had a break from it until now.

**Griffin McElroy** (3:30)
Yeah, yeah, but me too. I want you to know that it's not you and it's not anything that you're doing.

**Rachel McElroy** (3:35)
Yeah.

**Griffin McElroy** (3:36)
You know, he'll at least say that he loves you out loud.

**Rachel McElroy** (3:40)
Are we competing now for how bad it is?

**Griffin McElroy** (3:42)
No, no, no, I'm just sort of comparing the nature of his affront towards me, which is a lot deeper, a lot more psychological.

**Rachel McElroy** (3:52)
True.

**Griffin McElroy** (3:52)
Yours is very brass tacks like make the bunny appear you can't, I'm going to fucking lose my mind right now.

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