Winning Ugly - September 2nd

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**SPEAKER_2** (1:14)
Nobody said it had to be pretty. This is Winning Ugly with Nick Bakay and Billy Gardell right here on VSiN, the eSports betting network.

**Nick Bakay** (1:32)
Well, well, well, here we are. William Gardell, Nick Bakay, Winning Ugly. Our weekly journey through life, the point spread and the occasional artery clogging meat snack.
My buddy, my co-pilot every week here, you know him, you love him. There's a whole lot less of him now. One of the terrific touring standups, you can see him anywhere in America right now. You know him from Mike and Molly. You know him from Bob Hart's Abishola. If you're in Vegas, the man even played Colonel Tom Parker, Billy Gardell. Hey, Pally.

**Billy Gardell** (2:12)
Hello, my good friend. And let me welcome in my pal, my comrade, my eating buddy, my bedding buddy, ESPN's PointSpread OG for those of us that know.
Veteran television show runner, currently executive producing Leanne, which I just got to be on the second season of, and thank you, Gampow. And the creator of Bookie. He's also executive produce mom. What else have you done? Let me have you written Paul Blart Mall Cop, but here's my favorite. Paul Blart Mall Cop?

**Nick Bakay** (2:41)
And you know what? Just to add to my credibility here on this sports betting network, I was the talking cat on Sabrina the Teenage Witch. So that's my favorite. That accordingly, when we get into our picks. I appreciate you plugging Leanne.

**Billy Gardell** (2:58)
Welcome to Winning Ugly, everybody. Welcome in. And hello, Nick.

**Nick Bakay** (3:01)
Welcome in.

**Billy Gardell** (3:02)
I've been waiting all day to talk to you, buddy.

**Nick Bakay** (3:04)
Likewise, pal. I'll tell you, now you are at special assignment this week. There are going to be weeks where you're on the road. Where the hell are you?

**Billy Gardell** (3:13)
This week, I am in the Panhandle of Florida at Pensacola Beach. And Nick, there's a humidity down here where the chickens are laying fried eggs, brother. I am sweating in cracks I didn't know I had.
And I'm wearing a terry cloth shirt that looks like I stole it from the pool. And I'm going to get charged if I don't return it by 10 o'clock tonight. But I am here, my man. I am here to talk football and food and Winning Ugly with you. That's what I am here for.

**Nick Bakay** (3:40)
That's so funny. I always used to think back, you know, when I was playing high school football and you're delusional enough to think, what if I went pro? And I thought, you know, if I got drafted by Tampa Bay, I would just have to retire. I mean, you know, I could play all day in Green Bay and in Buffalo where I grew up. You get me? Florida weather.
I think I would die after the first practice. Dead man.

**Billy Gardell** (4:05)
Now, football is not meant to be equated with an Indian summer. We are supposed to be in cold weather, bleeding so it stops because it's cold, numbing so it stops the pain. I mean, what are we doing? We should not be playing in summer.

**Nick Bakay** (4:20)
You used to cut your hands on helmet nuts.

**Billy Gardell** (4:23)
Yeah, exactly.

**Nick Bakay** (4:26)
You know, this show is really an extension of how you and I, in a way, got to be friends. Billy and I have worked for years on the Warner Brothers lot. And, you know, Billy is not one of those sort of aloof TV stars who hides in his trailer and says, you call me when the lights are good. Billy, he had a trailer on basically Main Street. I was working on a show called Young Sheldon at the time. I had to pass Billy's trailer every day on my way to stage for run-throughs, for shoots.