Why You’re Not Changing Even Though You Know What to Do | Mark Manson - EP 808

**John R. Miles** (0:00)
Have you ever finished a great book or listened to a podcast and thought, this is going to change my life, only to discover a week later that nothing actually changed? If so, you're not alone.
When Mark Manson joined me on Passion Struck, he explained why that happens and why real transformation is far more uncomfortable than most of us expect. Take a listen.

**Mark Manson** (0:29)
For a human to actually be different than they were before, it requires you to do one of two things. It requires you to behave in ways that are new and uncomfortable, or it requires you to let go of beliefs and perceptions you had about yourself, which is also not fun because that's a form of grief. By definition, change requires either destruction of former behavior or former identity. Both of those things suck. If you're smiling about it, it probably didn't really change your life.

**John R. Miles** (1:05)
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Welcome back to Episode 808 Today, we're continuing our series, The Adaptive Brain, how your mind learns, changes, and heals. Let me ask you something. Have you ever finished a great book, listened to an incredible podcast, or had one of those conversations where you thought, this is it, this is finally the thing that's going to change my life? You felt inspired. You saw yourself differently. You understood exactly what you needed to do.
Then a week later, you were right back where you started. If you've ever had that experience, you're not alone. I think every one of us has. We must take clarity for change. We assume that because we see the problem differently, we'll naturally behave differently. But if that were true, we'd all change the first time we had a breakthrough. That's what makes today's conversation so fascinating. Joining me is Mark Manson, the three-time New York Times best-selling author whose books have sold more than 20 million copies worldwide. Mark has a way of challenging the assumptions we don't even realize we're making. In this conversation, we tackle one of the biggest misconceptions in personal development. The idea that insight creates transformation. Mark argues that understanding yourself is important, but understanding yourself isn't the same thing as changing yourself. Real change asks something much harder. It asks us to act differently before we're ready, and sometimes to let go of identities we've spent years building. But here's what stayed with me long after we finished recording. This really wasn't a conversation about self-improvement. It was a conversation about courage. Because every meaningful transformation asks us to leave something behind, an old habit, an old story, or even an old version of ourselves. We tend to think change should feel exciting, but Mark makes a compelling case that real change often feels uncomfortable before it feels liberating. I think that's exactly the conversation so many of us need right now. Let's dive in. Here's my conversation with Mark Manson. Thank you for choosing Passion Struck and choosing me to be your host and guide on your journey to creating an intentional life that matters. Now, let that journey begin.
I'm absolutely honored and actually thrilled today to welcome Mark Manson, someone who I've always wanted to have on Passion Struck. Welcome, Mark.

**Mark Manson** (4:29)
It's good to be here. Thanks for having me.

**John R. Miles** (4:32)
So Mark, over the past couple of weeks, as I've been preparing for this, I've immersed myself back into your books, but I'm also a subscriber to your newsletter, to your sub stack where I read your essays, and I also listen to your podcast. What has surprised me the most is that I stopped feeling like I was reading a writer, and I started to feel like I was reading someone trying to reverse engineer human behavior.
Is that a good way to think about this? What's been going on over the past 18 months?

**Mark Manson** (5:05)
Strangely, I take that as a compliment. I spent pretty much the whole early part of my career just focusing on books and writing, and I had a little bit of an epiphany a few years ago, which was that a sudden realization that a lot of the audience that I had built or cultivated online might actually be more important and more valuable in the long run than say just writing another three books.