Why Good People Stay in Bad Jobs (And How to Fix It)

Tim Elliott (0:00)

Thursday morning, this is Mira Business FM. It's the Morning Drive jobs, HR, talent, acquisition, recruitment and all that stuff now. David Mackenzie is the managing director. I thought of a new one. Yeah.

You are the Andres Iniesta of Mackenzie Jones, you know? And Iniesta?

David Mackenzie (0:15)

No, that's, it was completely...

Tim Elliott (0:17)

Barcelona player, midfielder. Midfielder maestro.

David Mackenzie (0:21)

Oh, really? Do you know what really irritates me, still, is, and this is a very political view, is how Argentina got away with flags saying Malvinas at the end of there.

Tim Elliott (0:33)

I don't know how we went from Andres Iniesta to Argentinian flags, but there you are. That upset you? Yes.

I go to me, it didn't bother me, but anyway.

David Mackenzie (0:43)

It did because my dad fought in the Falklands.

Tim Elliott (0:46)

Ah, well then that's different, I suppose.

David Mackenzie (0:48)

But again, whether it's right or wrong, you shouldn't... The whole thing I thought in the FA was that you weren't allowed to make political statements.

Tim Elliott (0:56)

Ah, but this is the FIFA.

David Mackenzie (1:00)

Isn't that Formula One?

Tim Elliott (1:01)

Well, a bit like that.

I don't know. No, I mean, I know you're not supposed to, and maybe you shouldn't, but... People are people, aren't they? I don't get worried by that stuff too much.

David Mackenzie (1:11)

No, I do because it's got a personal attachment.

Tim Elliott (1:14)

But their conduct, turning the back on the winners, that bothers me a lot more because that's just really... Efficacy. You lost. I mean, they were better, and you have to kind of go, okay. And the captain knew most of those players. Anyway, that's a different thing.

SPEAKER_3 (1:30)

Sorry.

Tim Elliott (1:33)

There's going to be a time when we have a conversation and we stick to the topic.

David Mackenzie (1:38)

No, there's no point.

SPEAKER_3 (1:39)

It's much more fun doing this.

Tim Elliott (1:41)

So, David Mackenzie is the MD of the recruitment consultancy, Mackenzie Jones. I got there. You're also a blogger, or sometimes you journal, but that's the same as blogging, really. Your latest blog is called, is it out now? It's out this morning, I think.

David Mackenzie (1:54)

Came out this morning, yeah.

Tim Elliott (1:55)

It did come out.

David Mackenzie (1:56)

Maneri's posted it. Any feedback?

Tim Elliott (1:59)

Well, is it controversial?

David Mackenzie (2:01)

Let me give you my rationale behind doing blogs.

There's three reasons we do them. One is to improve our network, our presence on LinkedIn. The other one is to establish the voice of what we stand for as a company. And the third one is to create discussion. And there's the emphasis, create discussion. That discussion is some...

Tim Elliott (2:21)

That's not what you told me, you're fair.

David Mackenzie (2:23)

Stop it.

Tim Elliott (2:24)

I tell you stuff about a pot and stirring, I think.

David Mackenzie (2:28)

My point being is that... And you know, you know really well, it's very bad English, you know what we do as a job, you know what recruitments do, I think you've got a really good insightful mind about how we operate, how we work.

Tim Elliott (2:45)

From talking to you, yeah, I have a better understanding.

David Mackenzie (2:48)

But most people do, but I think you've ingested, good word there, the information, I think you've analyzed it, and you've come out with a very rational view of what we do and how it works and the goods and bads. And I think this blog was very much about, we discuss this a lot about relationship building and about how relationships aren't.

There was a great advert in the UK that RSPCA did around about the Christmas time. And in UK, a lot of people get dogs at Christmas to give to their kids, and then after Christmas, they sort of throw them away. It's an awful thing to do. RSPCA did a massive campaign, which wasn't it really successful. It said, a dog is not just for Christmas.

Tim Elliott (3:32)

And it was super successful.

David Mackenzie (3:34)

And I think this is about relationships and recruitment.

You should always look for a job, but you should always keep in contact with your consultant, because that builds a relationship. And as the recruitment world changes with AI, which I know you're very OFA with, you need to have a person there that looks out for you every moment of the day when you're doing your day-to-day job.

Tim Elliott (3:55)

Okay, so hence the title of your blog, which is Don't Ignore Recruiters.