Why Codex is the Better Choice than Claude

**Jaden** (0:00)
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**SPEAKER_2** (0:28)
Well, we have big news on the podcast today. Jaden is no longer using Claude exclusively. He's moved back to using Codex and OpenAI, which is big news because Claude has been the reigning king or queen, you could say, for forever with, for at least the past six to nine months, I should say, in the development space. So Jaden has now switched to OpenAI. So we're gonna talk a little bit about today, Claude vs. OpenAI, Anthropic vs. OpenAI, maybe why you would want to use one over the other, what are advantages and disadvantages of each.
So Jaden, why don't you take it away? Tell us what's been going on with you and OpenAI.

**Jaden** (1:10)
So you know that I talk on the school community that Jamie and I do about Claude a lot and VibeCoding and everything with Claude. At this point, I feel like the two products have become similar enough, and I actually think OpenAI is a little bit better. I'll show you some examples of why I think OpenAI is a little bit better.
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The first being that I got, well, first of all, I have two Claude accounts and both of them are maxed out of my tokens. So since they're maxed out of my tokens, I have no other option but to go to OpenAI. And I think, I don't know if Claude could have done anything better about this. They did something that rubbed me and a lot of people the wrong way. And essentially, they had for the last three weeks, they keep saying the deadline for Fable 5 to get removed from Claude is the 1st of July and then the 7th of July and then the 14th of July and then the 19th of July. So every week, they would tweet out and say, look, we extended it for one more week. The problem was, in anticipation every single week of it getting cut off, I would go and use up all of my Fable credits for the entire week or the entire month, however many I could use. I would use them to the deadline. And then when the deadline came, it was like, oh, just kidding, you get it for another week. But now I have no more Fable 5 usage unless I go pay their API. So I got sick of them. I just feel like not treating people like responsible adults because I have these two completely maxed out accounts that I can't even use anymore. So anyways, that is probably the one reason that I'm the most salty. I had a post on LinkedIn where I actually responded to Claude on Twitter. They said, we're extending Claude Fable 5 access on all paid plans, as well as keeping Claude Code weekly rate limits 2% higher through July 19th. And I said, except I already used all my tokens in anticipation of the deadline, so I have no more credits left. Thanks for nothing.