What It Feels Like To Have No Head - Richard Lang - #336

**Chris Williamson** (0:00)
What's happening, people? Welcome back to the show. Joining me today is Richard Lang. He's the coordinator of the Shollond Trust, a UK charity focused on sharing The Headless Way. If you see a person from six feet away, they're a person. From 100,000 miles away, they're a planet. From a few microns away, they're cells. So what are we at our very center? Who are we? This is the central question of The Headless Way. And today, Richard takes us through Douglas Harding, his mentor's work, to answer it, along with some meditations and experiments that you can do to illuminate these insights for yourself. Richard also happens to be the proud owner of perhaps the most peaceful and calming voice on earth, after mine, obviously. So yes, today is a very calm, very peaceful meditative insight into the nature of ourselves and our daily experience. I first heard Richard on Sam's show a couple of years ago, and I absolutely loved him. I had to get him on. I really hope that you enjoyed this one too. There are some other news and in them, this episode is brought to you by Pure Sport CBD. The world's first nootropic infused CBD oils are here, and they've just restocked their unwind, which is my favorite. If you are struggling to sleep on a night, this is a great place to start to give you a little bit of assistance. It'll help you to fall asleep faster. You'll wake up less throughout the night and find yourself more rested and revitalized in the morning. You get 1500 mg of CBD alongside an all-natural blend of valerian root and lavender and chamomile and B vitamins and other stuff that helps to reduce stress and enhance your mood. They've got over 1000 reviews at an average of 4.8 stars on Trustpilot, and every batch of their products is double tested by two third-party companies to ensure it is the highest quality available. On top of that, you can get 20% off all full-priced items with the code MW20 by going to puresportcbd.com/modernwisdom and using the code MW20 for that 20% discount. If you need to upgrade your sleep game, this is a great place to start. puresportcbd.com/modernwisdom and MW20 for 20% off all full-priced items. There are some more other newses, and in them, this episode is brought to you by DW Aligners. You can get the perfect straight smile that you have always dreamed of in under six months, 70% cheaper than other invisible align methods. It's an easier, quicker and cheaper way to get the smile that you've always dreamed of while still receiving all the support and expertise that you would traditionally. Plus, they also offer great finance plans. You track your progress using this self-scan unit, which uses artificial intelligence and a team of registered dentists to ensure that you're moving forward correctly. They are half a billion scans and counting on this system. Honestly, I'm partway through my process at the moment, and it's so much more convenient than constantly having to go back to your dentist. You already have all of the different aligners and you scan once a week and it tells you, do you need to move on or not? And when you do, you just get the next aligner that you've got in your box, put it in, and you're good to go. So if there's any problems, there's a treatment coordinator who can help you every step of the way, head to dwaligners.co.uk, that's dwaligners.co.uk and you can get the perfect smile that you've always wanted for 70% cheaper than other invisible align methods. But now it's time to learn what it feels like to have no head with Richard Lang.
Richard Lang, welcome to the show.

**Richard Lang** (4:00)
Thank you, thank you very much, Chris. Pleasure to be here, as they say.

**Chris Williamson** (4:04)
It's a pleasure to have you here. Sam Harris says that the implications of The Headless Way provide insights into the nature of the mind, which he considers to be among the most important things that he's ever learned. Why do you think that the realization of not self is so impactful?

**Richard Lang** (4:22)
because it's true. It's just the simple truth. I mean, I'm looking at you, Chris, and I know some people are just listening, but you can imagine, but I see your face, I don't see mine. And I know from the outside, we're face to face. I understand that. But my own direct experience is face to no face. So I say, I've got your face instead of mine. I'm built open for you. And that is verifiable now. I'm not going by what someone has told me. I'm actually just looking and enjoying having your face. And you've got mine, you see. So we call it trading face. So that is available. It's verifiable. And it's loving actually, because you're seeing that you're built open to others and welcoming the world in your open space here. And all the viewer or listener has to do is look for their own face. Notice you can't see it. You see a bit of your nose coming out of nowhere and there are sensations, right? But they don't add up to being inside a head. So I hardly use the word non-dual. I just…that seems to sort of… because I like the dual as well, you see. It's important to remain aware of yourself as separate, you see. Well we've got that. We don't really have to work on that.