What Is It Like Trying To Date Gen Z Guys? - Sara Saffari - #679

**Chris Williamson** (0:00)
Hello everybody, welcome back to the show. My guest today is Sara Saffari. She's a fitness model, influencer, athlete and a YouTuber. Many people dream of being young, fit and famous. Lots of us are seduced by the idea of the attention that this brings. But what's the reality of being so exposed in a world filled with scrutiny, stalkers and haters? Expect to learn what Sara thinks about the muscle mommy movement, what makes women genuinely attractive, the biggest problem with dating Gen Z guys, Sara's thoughts on the Bradley Martyn vs Logan Paul fight, her top 10 exercises to build muscle, whether she would ever start an Only Fans and much more. I had a lot of fun talking to Sara. She does not fit the airhead fit chick caricature that many people in that industry might accuse her of being. She is really, really funny, genuinely funny and a very, very nice person. Also, you get a window into what the world of Gen Z is like, which is equal parts hilarious and terrifying. So yeah, get ready for that. Don't forget that you might be listening but not subscribed, and that means you will miss episodes when they go up. So if you want to support the show and if you want to make me very happy indeed, just take two seconds and press subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Spotify or wherever else you are listening. Go on. I thank you. But now, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Sara Saffari.
Sara Safari, welcome to the show.

**Sara Saffari** (1:44)
Hello, thank you for having me.

**Chris Williamson** (1:46)
How are you?

**Sara Saffari** (1:46)
Good, how are you?

**Chris Williamson** (1:47)
Very good, thank you. Talk to me about the Muscle Mummy movement. I'm hearing about it on the internet, that guys, there's like a move away from Thinspo to Fitspo to now Muscle Mummy, which is the step up. And even though you only just heard about the word today, it feels like you're part of that movement.

**Sara Saffari** (2:05)
Yeah, people have been commenting, like guys comment on my posts, like Muscle Mummy sometimes, and like, I'm not gonna lie, I kind of like it. But today was the first time that I've heard like women addressing themselves as Muscle Mummy or each other as Muscle Mummy.

**Chris Williamson** (2:20)
Gymshark did a Muscle Mummy t-shirt.

**Sara Saffari** (2:21)
Yes, and I was at the event and I like, even, you know, girls talking on the intercom or whatever, they'd be like, okay, Muscle Mommies, like, let's keep pushing. And I was like, I've never heard this. Like, I haven't heard like women addressing women as Muscle Mommies. I thought it was more of like, like kind of joking, flirty type thing, that guys comment on girls posts on Instagram.

**Chris Williamson** (2:42)
Taken the word and made it your own. So you're 23?

**Sara Saffari** (2:47)
22

**Chris Williamson** (2:48)
22 You probably growing up would have seen body types change from, I guess, when you were maybe 11, 12, 13 through to now.

**Sara Saffari** (3:00)
For sure.

**Chris Williamson** (3:01)
Talk to me about like that ideal female shape and kind of the lessons that you took about what an attractive woman is physically over time.

**Sara Saffari** (3:11)
For me, growing up, at first I was really skinny and then through high school, like I would always influxuate and weight. Like I'd go anywhere from 130 pounds to 100 pounds, which is a pretty big difference when you already weigh like kind of low. But I would always be told by my mom, like confidence is what makes you like most attractive. Like it's not what you look like, it's who you are and how you carry yourself. Sorry. And so that's what, you know, I was taught growing up. But for me personally, if I ever saw a girl with abs, I loved it. I loved the look of it. I thought it was like so, I don't know, attractive to me. Like that's what I was aiming for. That's what I wanted. But I never knew how to get there. Like I didn't know like, oh, how does a girl get abs? Like I thought it was just all genetics, but no diet comes into play, working out comes into play.

**Chris Williamson** (4:04)
And now there's this move. You remember when thigh gaps were a thing? When everybody wanted a thigh gap?

**Sara Saffari** (4:10)
Bro, yes. I remember being at lunch in high school and like girls would look at each other and be like, oh, you have it. Oh, you don't. The most toxic thing ever. And I remember like I didn't have one at the time, or like I don't think I ever had one, but I would go home and I'd like beat myself up about it. Because like girls would be pointing out how it's like good to have a thigh gap.