**Stephanie Soo** (0:02)
If you have not already, listen to the previous four parts of this series, I recommend doing that first. We went through The Crash itself that was caused by 17-year-old Mackenzie Shirilla, where she killed her boyfriend Dominic Russo and their friend Davion Flanagan in the backseat. We went through all of her actions after The Crash that a lot of people were side-eyeing. We went through the Netflix documentary. Mackenzie was interviewed for the Netflix documentary. We went through all of the things she said. Her best friends, her close friends, were also speaking out. Some of them were interviewed for the Netflix documentary, and a lot of them were hated. And two of the more controversial figures to come out of this Netflix doc, The Crash, are Rosie and Bubba. They were there the night at Paul's gathering that Mackenzie, Dom, and Davion were at all before they left. And when they leave Paul's place, that's when The Crash happens. So these are the last people to see Dom and Davion alive.
Rosie and Bubba are, you know, they did not have a, they were not widely liked after the Netflix documentary for a lot of good reasons on the internet.
And we were able to get them on a two-hour phone call with our researchers and ask them all of the questions. And most importantly, ask them what really happened that night.
Now, I will say that I was not on that phone call. There was a schedule overlap, but also we thought it would be best for me to remain as objective as possible, and I thought the easiest way would be to not be on that phone call. I gave my researchers a list of questions that I had. My researchers also had their own list of questions, and we were just rapid fire, making sure that everything got answered. And I will say that Rosie and Bubba do not seem to be at least evasive to any of the questions. I did of course try my best to verify their statements, but there are some that are, for obvious reasons, impossible to verify.
And for those, I'm just going to point out, there's no way to verify that. And at times where I do attempt to verify with the FOIA file, I'm just going to walk you through my steps and thought process of how I tried to verify information, just so we can be as transparent as possible. Rosie and Bubba first stated that they felt the Netflix documentary was extremely edited and twisted in a way that does not represent how they truly feel. Rosie told us that she was under the impression that the Netflix doc was talking to her and Bubba about the viewpoint of losing friends in such a tragic way at such a young age. She says, I just feel like it really was twisted in a way that we never anticipated. Rosie states that it wasn't what she was expecting to represent her feelings about the whole situation. So they were describing that Rosie had an 8-hour long interview with producers, Bubba had a 15-hour long interview and it was just like rapid fire questions all day, and they said that they answered each and every single one of them, and when they saw the final documentary, they even thought the original documentary was going to be a three-part docu-series, but it got cut down to just one and a half hours. Rosie states she felt like they just took out a lot of things for simplicity's sake. They never got an early viewing of the documentary either, and when it did release, Rosie and Bubba stayed up to like three in the morning to watch it, and they state that they were taken aback by how much was cut out.
For like eight hours, fifteen hours, they say like it's only like fifteen minutes, make it in, and they thought that it was not a good representation of their interviews, is what they state to us. Rosie shares her grievances with the way the documentary cut her parts, stating that she felt a lot of trust with the production team. She says they did Don't Fuck with Cats, which is honestly great. We think it's a great film. Everybody loves that. We just watched it a while ago. So they had a lot of reputable films. I thought they would take our story responsibly, and they were always super nice every time we communicated with them, and we really poured our hearts out, and they came into our house multiple times. They felt it was just not accurate of how they feel.
So how do they feel? The biggest question that we had for Rosie, other than what happened that night was, why would you not talk to the police, but you want to talk to Netflix? That also seemed to be the biggest point of contention on the internet when it comes to Rosie. I did see through the police file throughout the police report, there are multiple mentions in the detective's incident report he has reached out to Rosie and she has declined to speak with him. He's reaching out multiple days. This is a major, completely understandable point that's being made online. I too am of the belief of how can you really grieve the loss of two friends, but you did everything you could to avoid helping the investigators figure out the truth of what happened that night? It doesn't make sense. It does give cover up vibes, understandably. So we asked, why did she not talk to the investigators? In the documentary, in the Netflix documentary, the prosecutor is also interviewed and he states quote, You have no idea how hard I try to get Rosie Graham to talk to me, to cooperate with me. But it's good to hear that she talked to you guys. I'm fascinated to hear what she has to say. So we asked Rosie and she states, she did talk to the prosecutor. Really? Yeah. She says quote, I did speak with the prosecutor and I don't really know what got lost in communication with them. She later mentions that she had two phone calls with the prosecutors. One was an hour long, the other one was 30 minutes long and that she has a phone record to prove these calls happened.
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