Wash Your Own Feet!
Data Over Dogma
May 26, 2025
This week we're getting all apocryphal, and diving headlong into Maccabees. Specifically, we're discussing the story of a mother and her sons in 2 Maccabees, chapter 7. This is the inspiring (?) tale of a family defying tyranny by refusing to eat, and all being brutally murdered for their trouble.
Speakers Dan Beecher, Dan McClellan, Molly, Nathaniel Lloyd
TopicsSociety & CultureHistory
Dan Beecher (0:00)
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Dan Beecher (2:42)
I love the final moment of the Book of John.
We'll give him the full three years. It's still a pretty big claim to say that if everything that Jesus did was written down, even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written. That feels a little strong. Coming on a little strong, author of John.
Dan McClellan (3:08)
Hey everybody, I'm Dan McClellan.
Dan Beecher (3:10)
And I'm Dan Beecher.
Dan McClellan (3:12)
And you're listening to the Data Over Dogma podcast, where we increase public access to the academic study of the Bible and religion, and combat the spread of misinformation about the same. How are things today, Dan?
Dan Beecher (3:24)
Rocking and rolling. Keeping it juicy.
Dan McClellan (3:28)
Keeping it 100, huh?
Dan Beecher (3:29)
Keeping it 100, yes.
A fun show coming up today. Awesome. We get to talk about a book that is not one that I even ever encountered my entire growing up, because it is part of the Apocrypha. It is Second Applebee's. And we're going to have some fun with that one.
Dan McClellan (3:55)
Third Karabas after that.
Dan Beecher (3:57)
Yeah, sure. And then we're going to go into a taking issue. And the issue we're going to take is one that like, it is an obvious right off the jump, but we're going to be talking about the washing of feet. It is a thing that happened quite a bit and was an interesting ritual and maybe was way more interesting than we knew it was. We'll see when we get to it.
That will be a fun discussion. But to start us off, let's do a chapter and verse.
SPEAKER_4 (4:32)
All right.
Dan Beecher (4:36)
All right. And this week's chapter and verse is in 2nd Maccabees, chapter 7 Is that right?
Dan McClellan (4:45)
Yeah. Yeah. Should we talk a little bit about Maccabees?
Dan Beecher (4:49)
Yeah, we should just and remind ourselves why it's not in all of the Bibles and why the Catholics will remember it and the Protestants won't, et cetera.
Dan McClellan (5:00)
Yeah, there are actually, there are four well-known books of Maccabees. It's generally the first two that are included in apocryphal text, if those texts are included. And the Maccabees deal with the history of the rise of the Hasmonean Kingdom. So the fighting back against the Seleucid rulers in the middle of the second century BCE, when Jewish folks actually managed to regain a degree of independence and started what has become known as the Hasmonean Kingdom. So these are the events that result in the celebration of Hanukkah, which commemorates the rededication of the temple after the Maccabeean forces were able to take it back from the Seleucid forces.
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