Warm Milk, Foot Rubs, and White Claws: ALL The Texts Between Mackenzie & Dad

**SPEAKER_1** (0:01)
Badda bing, badda boo.

**Stephanie Soo** (0:02)
Welcome back to the second half of part three of Mackenzie Shirilla's Case. We've talked about some of the recent interviews Steve Shirilla, Mackenzie's dad, has done, which has not really shed a better light since the release of the Netflix documentary. It just seems like anytime Steve and Natalie Shirilla open their mouths, nothing necessarily good comes out of it. People are not getting the point that they want people to get, and people are getting more frustrated, and it's just leaving everybody at more odds than they were at before. So in this next part, we're going to go through all of the text messages that we received from the police between Mackenzie and her dad, Steve Shirilla, and all the little conspiracies that people have about them. In the police FOIA file, we received this lengthy document. It's the sell-by extract of text messages between Mackenzie and her dad. And I will say, the internet has taken some snippets of it and ran with it to very interesting directions and corners of darkness. For example, there's the whole warm milk bit online. I guess people have been pulling messages and Mackenzie seems to ask her dad for, quote, warm milk at odd hours of the day, or more often odd hours of the night. And there are some notable ones. So for example, I mean, I was going through looking for these warm milk messages because I saw people talking about it online before I even got to it. January 4th, 2020, Mackenzie texts her dad at 2:43 a.m. Middle of the night. Can you make me warm milk?
He doesn't respond until 1 p.m. the next day. Sorry, just saying this. You still want milk? Then two days later, at 11:31 p.m., Mackenzie texts her dad again. Can you make me warm milk? He responds, okay.
Thanks, when you come in, be quiet. Then later, in March 2020, Mackenzie texts her dad at 11:35 p.m. Can you rub my feet? This seems to be a thing that she does because months later there are similar messages. Could you please come up here and rub my feet? They are in pain and mom will not do a good job. Can you rub my feet?
Which is interesting. April 2nd, 2020, 11:12 p.m. Mackenzie asks again, will you make me warm milk? He responds the next morning at 10 a.m. Just saw this, do you still want? No.
Sorry, my phone was dead. Then May 5th, 2020 at midnight, can you make me warm milk? Again, May 8th, 2020 at 3 a.m. Can you make me warm milk? To which Steve responds, okay.
Mackenzie asks, can you do it now?
Then again, May 9th, 2020, can you make me milk?
And I don't know if it's maybe a lot of people who don't really drink a lot of warm milk, or maybe just like a vibe that people are picking up, but comments on TikTok read, warm milk is not warm milk. That comment has almost 30,000 likes. People are debating under that comment section, you know, arguing what they think warm milk means. Some say warm milk helps you come off certain drugs. So like, it is warm milk, but the reason she needs it so much is because she's trying to come down from a drug. Others say, no, it sounds like a sexual thing. Another comment just reads, Google urban dictionary meaning for warm milk, which I did, and there is a list of different definitions ranging from the beverage you drink while thinking of excuses to explain why you can't fish because your wife or others won't let you. Basically, you're a bitch baby. All the way to, it's a webcomic, and all the way to quote, wank, jerk off furiously during a bout of insomnia as a way to work up the heart rate and therefore exhaust oneself to sleep. So there are some people on the internet who believe that they think something weird is going on between Mackenzie and her dad. With one comment reading, this feels like a grossly inappropriate relationship. Others don't think it's that dark necessarily. They theorize online, warm milk helps you come down from very specific substances, just an FYI. Sounds like she was a junkie and her dad was an enabler. So still probably bad.

**SPEAKER_1** (3:43)
Does she ask for anything else?

**Stephanie Soo** (3:45)
Oh yeah, I'm gonna get into that. Now one comment with over 40,000 likes reads, child of addicts here, I was always told warm milk helps you come down from drugs.
So there is no proof that something strange is happening like some netizens theorize because I kept seeing, I don't know if it was my algorithm, but TikTok was just like something weird's going on between her and her dad. But then I'm reading the messages and I honestly would say that this is my feeling. I wouldn't be surprised if Mackenzie is literally just asking for warm milk, like a literal glass of warm milk. And maybe it's weird to some people because I wouldn't wake my dad up at three in the morning to ask her a favor. But that sounds just about exactly what Mackenzie would do.