Wandering in the Wilderness with Angela Roskop Erisman

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Dan Beecher (0:30)

Wow, this house is cute.

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Dan Beecher (0:35)

I do have savings and I am responsible-ish.

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I should bury it.

Angela Roskop Erisman (0:41)

I'm being wild.

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Angela Roskop Erisman (1:01)

The reason that we look for an Exodus and a Moses in the Late Bronze Age is because we understand this story as history writing. But once we understand that, oh, this started at least its life as fictional biography, that is political allegory, suddenly the whole world can look different.

Dan McClellan (1:26)

Hey, everybody. I'm Dan McClellan.

Dan Beecher (1:28)

And I'm Dan Beecher.

Dan McClellan (1:29)

And you're listening to the Data Over Dogma Podcast, where we increase public access to the academic study of the Bible and religion and we combat the spread of misinformation about the same. How go things, Dan?

Dan Beecher (1:42)

Man, it is spring is sprung here in Salt Lake City.

Dan McClellan (1:48)

We hit the 70s for the first time.

Dan Beecher (1:50)

The high 70s, my friends, the high 70s. I was out for a walk and was sweating a little bit.

So life is good. I'm happy. There's, you know, some of the trees are getting leaves and, you know, the world's just coming back to life. And I'm into that.

Dan McClellan (2:05)

The SAD is hitting the bricks for a lot of folks around my neck of the woods, which is always nice.

Dan Beecher (2:11)

Yeah. Hey, let's stop jabbering and get on with our because we got a guest here in the house. So why don't you introduce our guest?

Dan McClellan (2:21)

Say hi, everybody, to Angela Roskop Erisman, who is joining us from Cincinnati, right?

Dan Beecher (2:29)

Yes. Fantastic.

Dan McClellan (2:31)

Thank you so much for joining us this evening, Angela. And we are here to talk about a few different things. But first off, I we were talking a little bit about your background and that you are an independent scholar who specializes in Torah or Pentateuch or whatever you want to call the first five books of Moses. And you have a bit of a non-traditional background when it comes to your Bible scholarship. You want to talk about that a little bit?

Angela Roskop Erisman (3:03)

Sure. Sure. I have a pretty traditional path through graduate school. I went to the University of Wisconsin-Madison and Hebrew Union College here in Cincinnati. So that's a pretty standard path, but I'm married at Bourbon Distiller and needed to stay near Kentucky.

Dan Beecher (3:24)

You know what? That is a good reason to stay near Kentucky. I will give you that.

Dan McClellan (3:28)

The heart wants what the heart wants. Right.

Angela Roskop Erisman (3:31)

I guess so.

Dan Beecher (3:32)

As does the liver, apparently.

Angela Roskop Erisman (3:36)

So, you know, I've done a variety of different things. I'm one of the founding editors of the Marginalia Review of Books. And I do editorial work for various clients, and I've taught in various places. And, of course, I am very busy also with my own scholarship. And I share your interest in making sure that everybody gets access to the Bible. And so, I care very much about those issues. And so, I'm just delighted to be here.

Dan McClellan (4:11)

Well, you mentioned the Marginalia review of books, which means you know Timothy Michael Law.

Angela Roskop Erisman (4:16)

I certainly do.

Dan McClellan (4:19)

He was my thesis supervisor at Oxford. Yeah. And I think that was around the time he was writing When God Spoke Greek. Yeah. So, yeah, wonderful guy. I have not talked to him for a while. He is gallivanting around the world doing all kinds of entrepreneurial stuff.

Angela Roskop Erisman (4:38)

He is.

Dan Beecher (4:39)

He is.