VSiN By The Books | August 28, 2026 | Hour 3

**Dave Ross** (0:01)
This is VSiN, the SportsBetting Network.
Top of the hour, it is VSiN By The Books, Dave Ross, right here at the Men's Gaming Hall, Franklin, Kentucky. Our closer Jensen Lewis back home in Cleveland, Ohio. Have the great Lou Finocchiaro join us from Arizona here at the bottom half of the hour. Again, I'm terrible at time changes. UFC Shanghai, middle of the night. It's going to be super early. I can tell you that. We'll get a breakdown here from Lou.
But Jensen, closed out hour number two. Please like, subscribe to VSiN By The Books podcast. Take a listen to the great guests we've already had on the program, like Chris Childers and certainly Thomas Gable, an hour number one. And we got this tweet here from our buddy Billy at PacMan888. And this is a response to the last segment. We were talking about Caleb Williams, for those just joining us right now. Appreciate you watching and listening. He said, when JLU50 response opens with a heavy sigh before any words are spoken, akin to a, yeah, but you know it's bringing chin music. I love the celebration take. The worst is when guys celebrate went down big at the raw sports at VSiN live. Celebration should be situational. Great call. Jensen, I think that's kind of the point, right? Kind of know when and where to do what Caleb Williams is advocating for.

**Jensen Lewis** (1:32)
No notes is what it is. It's going to cost the team a game this year. Calling it now. Go ahead and book it.

**Dave Ross** (1:40)
It's going to happen. OK, I want to I want to play this from Rob Moreno. Again, I'm going to talk with Lou Finocchiaro about UFC Shanghai here. But Rob brought this up on the First Strike podcast this week, which is sensational. And again, please like, subscribe to First Strike for all you MMA fans out there and betters. And a very interesting conversation about a pro athlete playing with his boys. It'd be like me and you going out and playing a round of golf. I want you to listen to this and then get your reaction to it.

**Jensen Lewis** (2:06)
Yeah, so Gates is a big golfer. I don't know if you know that he loves doing that in his free time. And I got to give a shout out to Destiny McCubbin. She's the co-host of In The Corner with our guy Doug Vasquez for Sports Illustrated. She also works with CageSide Press. Great follow on Instagram, by the way, she's doing a lot of fight interviews. She was CageSide at Dana White's Contenders Series last night. So great coverage for the sport of MMA from Destiny. But she had an interview with Justin Gaethje recently talking about golf and if he likes to wager with his buddies on golf. And so respectfully speaking, you tell me, is this a good friend or a bad friend? Because you know, his buddies may not have the same kind of bankroll that he has, you know, being lightweight champion of the UFC. So what he says he does is he lets his friends choose a number, let's say a hundred bucks. That's the example he uses. And he says, if my buddy wins, I pay him the hundred. But if I win, I give him a leg kick for the amount like, you know, he judges his power based on how much he bet. So I give him a hundred dollar worth of a leg kick.
So it's kicker's choice. What say you? Is that a good friend or a bad friend? And would you play golf with Justin Gaethje?
Okay.

**Dave Ross** (3:16)
First of all, this is amazing.
I've interviewed Justin many times back in the day, and he actually invited me and my cohost at the time, Tyler, Tyler Fulgham, if you watch him on ESPN, does a great job these days. He invited Tyler and I to come out to Colorado and play golf. Now, we were gung-ho about playing golf with Justin Gaethje. Why wouldn't you be? I am so glad we did not take him up on that.

**Jensen Lewis** (3:42)
You could be walking around with a limp today.

**Dave Ross** (3:44)
A permanent limp.
I'm too old. I can't take a leg kick from Justin Gaethje because he beats me in golf. No way, Justin. Bad friend. I would rather pay you the money. I can earn more money back in our capitalist society.

**Jensen Lewis** (3:58)
I can't grow another leg, Justin. Exactly.

**Dave Ross** (4:02)
I can't get my inner thigh back. Damaged goods now out there. I'm still a single man. I'd like to keep my legs intact in case there's a suitor to be out there. Rob, there's no way I'm taking leg kicks from that guy in particular, or any professional MMA fighter out there. No chance. I'm paying you the 100 bucks, Justin. I would not accept the clause in the golfing contract.