Valentine's Day Special: Dr. Mike and Lisa Gervais on Love, Relationships and Growth

O'Neil Cespedes (0:04)

Love is in the air, love is everywhere. Go ahead and grab somebody and hug them. I don't think you should care. Welcome, welcome, welcome everybody to the Finding Mastery podcast. I'm your host today, Cupid, AKA O'Neill Céspedes, AKA the Love Doctor.

This conversation for Valentine's Day is all about love and relationships. I'm very excited to welcome our two guests today, your usual Finding Mastery host, Dr. Mike Gervais, and his wife, Lisa.

Michael Gervais (0:42)

That was the intro that I've been hoping for. Thank you.

O'Neil Cespedes (0:47)

It took a lot for me to do that, and I can get back to my normal voice now.

Michael Gervais (0:53)

Yeah, we're good.

Lisa Gervais (0:55)

Yeah, excited to be here.

Michael Gervais (0:56)

Yeah, for sure.

Lisa Gervais (0:57)

Different.

O'Neil Cespedes (0:57)

I'm excited to have you guys here.

Michael Gervais (0:59)

Is it okay to be nervous?

O'Neil Cespedes (1:00)

No.

Michael Gervais (1:01)

I'm a little nervous.

O'Neil Cespedes (1:02)

Why?

Michael Gervais (1:03)

Well, it's the first time my wife is here joining us, and you know, when you sit next to a fire breather, truth teller, and we're going to talk about relationships. Yeah, you know.

O'Neil Cespedes (1:18)

Lisa, is that true? Are you a fire breather?

Lisa Gervais (1:21)

Oh, I don't see myself as that. I just see myself as, you know, trying to be truthful and find everything that's authentic and be as authentic as I can possibly be. So, I don't know, maybe that intimidates some, but...

Michael Gervais (1:37)

I didn't say intimidation. I said nervousness.

SPEAKER_4 (1:43)

That's good.

Lisa Gervais (1:45)

But you know, I'm soft on the inside.

O'Neil Cespedes (1:48)

You know, Mike, I'm forced to side with Lisa. I believe her.

Michael Gervais (1:52)

I do believe her, too.

O'Neil Cespedes (1:54)

That wasn't the answer out of fear, was it? That was the truth, right?

Michael Gervais (1:57)

No, this is like...

How long have we been there? 27, 28 years?

O'Neil Cespedes (2:02)

Wait a minute. Hold on, hold on. I didn't know this.

Really?

Lisa Gervais (2:06)

Yes, 1995

Michael Gervais (2:08)

And our first date was in 1998 87, I mean.

1987

Lisa Gervais (2:17)

1987

Michael Gervais (2:19)

Wow.

O'Neil Cespedes (2:20)

That's gangsta. Let me get into my first question. How did you meet and what attracted you to both to each other?

Lisa Gervais (2:27)

So we met in high school. It was like not a big deal.

He was actually dating one of my friends.

O'Neil Cespedes (2:36)

What?

SPEAKER_4 (2:38)

This is about to be so juicy.

Lisa Gervais (2:45)

But I just kind of saw him and it wasn't that big of a deal. But when we first met, like when I think one of his friends introduced us, it was something like that was divine because I met him, I felt him and I was like, that's going to be my husband.

O'Neil Cespedes (3:03)

Really?

Lisa Gervais (3:04)

Yes. And I was 15 So I knew nothing. I hadn't had a boyfriend. I was a dancer. I went to school, left school, went to dance class, danced till 10, came home. I was not into boys at all. So it was something that was like, just kind of hit me.

We just spoke here and there. He was totally uninterested in me.

Totally.

Michael Gervais (3:27)

That's not fair. I was more interested. I wasn't into like girls. We'll use that like not women, but like, I just wasn't into it yet.

I was like 15 or 16 It wasn't, I was way more interested in sport, you know, surfing in particular. So it wasn't like, I don't think it was like not interested, but then I always thought I'm lucky, you know, because it's weird to speak it to. I always thought she was smoking hot, like from the first time I met her.

So it wasn't like I wasn't interested, but it was like.

Lisa Gervais (3:59)

If you were to see those pictures of me at 15, I can't imagine that he was saying that, but okay.

SPEAKER_4 (4:05)

We should put one of those up.

O'Neil Cespedes (4:07)

Can we put one of those up or no?

Lisa Gervais (4:08)

Yeah, I would have to look for one, but the hair.

Michael Gervais (4:14)

This is 1980 The 80s hair was.

O'Neil Cespedes (4:16)

The aquanet was going strong.

Lisa Gervais (4:19)

And I had like this curl. I mean, it was okay.

O'Neil Cespedes (4:22)

So wait a minute.

I got to ask, since you saw him and then you knew this was going to be your husband, what happened to your girl? Did you walk over to her and was like, hey, yo, listen, that's going to be my husband.