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Data Over Dogma

April 14, 2025

It's a sin so egregious that Christians weren't allowed to do it, BY LAW, for centuries! But now? Totally fine. Everybody participates. No big deal at all!

Speakers Dan Beecher, Dan McClellan

TopicsSociety & CultureHistory

Dan Beecher (0:00)

Wow, this house is cute.

Dan McClellan (0:03)

But can I really get in the game in this economy?

Dan Beecher (0:05)

I do have savings, and I am responsible-ish.

SPEAKER_3 (0:09)

I should bury it.

SPEAKER_4 (0:10)

I'm being wild. But what if I'm not being wild though? Could I actually score a?

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SPEAKER_3 (0:30)

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Dan McClellan (1:01)

In Ezekiel 18, he rattles off a list of bad folks. And the last thing on the list is, takes advance or accrued interest.

SPEAKER_5 (1:10)

Wow.

Dan McClellan (1:10)

Shall he then live?

SPEAKER_5 (1:12)

He shall not.

Dan McClellan (1:17)

Hey, everybody. I'm Dan McClellan.

Dan Beecher (1:19)

And I'm Dan Beecher.

Dan McClellan (1:20)

And you're listening to the Data Over Dogma podcast, where we increase public access to the academic study of the Bible and religion, and we combat that pesky spread of misinformation about the same. And how are things today, Dan?

Dan Beecher (1:34)

Good. Good.

Dan McClellan (1:36)

You've just come off the rugby pitch.

Dan Beecher (1:38)

Yes.

SPEAKER_5 (1:38)

I hope you all won.

Dan Beecher (1:39)

I... I'm a never-lose rugby player. I've literally never lost a rugby game in my life.

Dan McClellan (1:46)

Nice.

SPEAKER_5 (1:46)

There you go.

Dan Beecher (1:47)

I've never played a rugby game, but, yeah. Dan, for those of you listening at home, is referring to the shirt that I'm wearing, which is... Actually, do you want to know why I got this? I'll just briefly... Last year, I went to... You'll recall I went to Mardi Gras with a bunch of friends. And the whole group of us decided that our theme for that entire week that we were there was Spinal Tap, the movie Spinal Tap.

Dan McClellan (2:16)

Yeah, there's gonna be a new one coming out.

Dan Beecher (2:17)

I know. They were literally in New Orleans at the same time that we were there, and we didn't see them, which proves to me that fate isn't real. But we but yes, I'm from my character. I was I played Ian, the band manager, and this this this rugby shirt with a leather vest over it. He's inexplicably dressed the entire time.

SPEAKER_5 (2:38)

Yeah.

Dan Beecher (2:41)

Anyway, Oh, gosh.

Dan McClellan (2:43)

And it's and it's the colors for the Washington football team. So all I have to say to that is boo.

Dan Beecher (2:49)

Well, this isn't a football shirt, so everything's fine. Yep. All right. Well, today we are going to have some fun. We are going to discuss and we're going to tread, I think, a little bit back on to Dave Ramsey's turf because because we're getting economic up in here again. A little bit, but we're going to be talking about you did. You you actually did a video in your social media recently that yes, that that set up a question. And the question is, what is this thing that's been prohibited so much in the Bible? And we're going to. So I'm not going to say what it is. Well, we'll get to it very quickly in the first segment. And then in the second segment in our chapter and verse, we're going to be talking about the parable of the talents, which I find utterly befuddling. And hopefully, hopefully we'll shed some light on it. Maybe that light will just further befuddle. I don't know. There might be might be a mass befuddling.

Dan McClellan (3:56)

Yeah, I think we might be able to clear a few things up, but mainly it's going to be muddying the waters and then running away.

Dan Beecher (4:01)

So well, that's that's as we do.

Dan McClellan (4:04)

That's what we do.

Dan Beecher (4:05)

That's it's kind of our thing. But let's get on with our first segment, Taking Issue.

And the first issue we're going to take, the issue that we are taking, is with something that is prohibited far more in the Bible than any particular kind of sexual act or orientation. We've talked about how there are no orientations that are prohibited in the Bible. It's prohibited in ways that, in direct ways, that you can't say trans-ness is prohibited, or abortion. Like, this has hit so many times. What are we talking about?

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