Tucker Vs Ted: The Israel Throwdown
Data Over Dogma
July 7, 2025
Forget the fourth of July- if you want real fireworks, you gotta check out the incendiary interview between Tucker Carlson and Ted Cruz. It was... a lot. But when two insufferable gasbags collide that hard, you're going to get a gas giant explosion. Just be glad you couldn't smell it.
Speakers Dan McClellan, Dan Beecher
TopicsSociety & CultureHistory
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Dan McClellan (2:29)
Ezekiel is like, I can fix it. I'm going to give God wheels. We're going to mobilize the throne so that God can just go crashing out of the temple and go. God's like, where we're going, we don't need roads. Hey everybody, I'm Dan McClellan.
Dan Beecher (2:49)
And I'm Dan Beecher.
Dan McClellan (2:50)
And you're listening to the Data Over Dogma Podcast, where we increase public access to the academic study of the Bible and religion, and we combat that ever present spread of misinformation about the same. How are things today, Dan?
Dan Beecher (3:05)
Things are good. We're wading in chest deep on this one today. Yeah, yeah. We're going in hard and we're going in heavy.
Dan McClellan (3:14)
Yes, we are. We are gonna cause, we're gonna ruffle some feathers.
Dan Beecher (3:20)
Yeah.
Dan McClellan (3:20)
Today, but I don't think.
Dan Beecher (3:22)
It might be deeper than chest deep. We might need snorkels at this point. We'll see.
Dan McClellan (3:27)
I don't think it is not con razon, as the kids are saying these days, I believe. In other words, it's not unjustified, but yeah, we're gonna be wading into some controversy, which we don't ever do.
Dan Beecher (3:43)
We've never, we've managed to avoid it for so long. It's finally time. So let's, the first half, we're gonna be talking about a subject that has come up thanks to, of all people, one Ted Cruz, thank goodness for him. We're all just so happy that he's around. And Tucker Carlson, I feel similar about him. And then in the second, and that's gonna be, oh, heaven help us, it's gonna be about Israel. And then in the second half of the show, we're going to talk about a psalm that is interesting. I'm gonna give it that. And maybe a little problematic for many of us. So we'll get, we'll dive deep into that. But first, let's get into a taking issue.
And this week's taking issue, we're taking issue with something that, you know, this interview that Tucker Carlson did with Ted Cruz, the main thing that sort of went viral was Tucker grilling Ted Cruz about, you don't know anything about Iran, and you want to blow them off the face of the earth, and there's all this Iran stuff. But sort of what got lost in the shuffle was the thing that you picked up on, Dan. When he was talking, when they were talking about Israel, and specifically what happened was Ted Cruz said, well, I'm a Christian, and in the Bible, we are commanded to bless Israel.
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