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**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:00)
So we had a dinner where me and Friedberg and Jay Cal were invited to have dinner with the folks from S*** and their other top podcasters.

**Jason Calacanis** (0:07)
It was an off-the-record dinner. Let's talk all about it. There was an interesting moment which even Friedberg had to recognize, which was we went around and said, hey, what podcast are you listening to? Which ones are your favorites? We went out in the room, and I got to tell you, you know what your podcasters' favorite podcast is?

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:22)
Bingo.

**Jason Calacanis** (0:23)
All-In Podcasts.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:24)
Well, the funniest thing is, my wife thinks I'm bullshitting all the time. I say, this is a-

**Jason Calacanis** (0:28)
Mine too.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:28)
Pretty reasonably successful and well. She doesn't believe it. She thinks we're all bullshitting.

**Thomas Laffont** (0:33)
Why do you think I waited to make my world podcast premiere for All-In? All the ankle biters called, and I said, no, I'm just going to wait. I'm going to wait till the besties call.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:43)
Can we just say it, Nick? You got to pick it up. When the podcast called, you're like, nope, can't do it.

**Thomas Laffont** (0:48)
Nope, sorry.

**Jason Calacanis** (0:49)
I'm waiting for the real deal.

**Thomas Laffont** (0:51)
I don't need JV.

**Jason Calacanis** (1:10)
All right, everybody. Welcome back to the number one business, finance, technology, science podcast in the world. This is the place where we call balls and strikes, where we tell the truth, where there is zero censorship. Every week, we tell you about the truth behind the most important stories. We point out who the heroes are and who the villains are, who are the delightful ones and who are the dyskratia. With me again on this week's program, the cackling chairman dictator, my guy, Chamath Palihapitiya. How are you doing? How is your victory lap?

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (1:48)
It's really, really, really fun.

**Jason Calacanis** (1:50)
You look like you were in your afterglow. And I have to say, Nat was looking pretty good.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (1:57)
We have some pictures. Don't worry, we're going to go through behind the scenes.

**Jason Calacanis** (2:00)
Armani came through for Amore, the Amore collection from Armani coming this fall.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (2:06)
By the way, I mean, Armani couture is like firing on all cylinders.
The other one which you'll see is a great picture of this incredible jacket. Luisa Beccaria. Two shout outs. Armani and Luisa Beccaria.

**Jason Calacanis** (2:18)
I was just thinking that Armani really has been making it happen.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (2:21)
Now that we've talked about that, we'll talk about My Wardrobe when the time comes. Just get through the rest of the interest.

**SPEAKER_5** (2:26)
All right.

**Jason Calacanis** (2:28)
Of course, here he is, your Sultan of Science, David Friedberg.

**David Friedberg** (2:34)
Move along, Jay Cal. Let's go. Let's go.

**Jason Calacanis** (2:36)
He's wonderful. He's very bitter today. He's got a lot of anger. He is the barista of bitterness today. He's serving up bitterness all day long, and he had a great time at the... Maybe he's a little upset about the Lex Friedman triangle we're in right now.

**SPEAKER_8** (2:51)
I think that could be a part of it.

**Jason Calacanis** (2:53)
And we have a special guest here. Thomas Laffont is the co-founder of Cotoo Management. They got a 50-billion-under management, public, private, yada, yada. Before that, he worked at Creative Artist Agency for seven years after he went to college, so he does have the college degree. He signed Captain America, which is Friedberg's favorite Avenger, Chris Evans.

**Thomas Laffont** (3:22)
Still a CAA client, by the way.

**Jason Calacanis** (3:24)
Yes. And you're still in touch with him?

**Thomas Laffont** (3:27)
I am not.

**Jason Calacanis** (3:28)
You're not.

**Thomas Laffont** (3:28)
But I've watched with wonder at what he's achieved after I left being his agent. It's been incredible. Great career.

**Jason Calacanis** (3:36)
Now, behind you, we see this incredible view.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (3:40)
Wait, you're missing the one part, which is that Thomas was one of the highest-rated speakers that we had at the All-In Summit.

**Jason Calacanis** (3:46)
Yeah. That's true, actually. He did really great last year.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (3:49)
Really crushed it.

**Jason Calacanis** (3:50)
Crushed it, of course.

**Thomas Laffont** (3:51)
And I think I'm in the seventh bestie position and hoping potentially after the podcast to at least move up by one.

**Jason Calacanis** (3:57)
Okay.

**David Friedberg** (3:58)
So there you go.

**Jason Calacanis** (3:59)
Let's see what happens here. Now, what's this view behind you?

**Thomas Laffont** (4:01)
This is Los Angeles.

**David Friedberg** (4:03)