Trump's Cabinet, Google's Quantum Chip, Apple's Flop, TikTok, State of VC with bestie Keith Rabois

**Jason Calacanis** (0:00)
All right, everybody, welcome back to the number one podcast in the world, the All-In Podcast with me again today, Chamath Palihapitiya, your chairman dictator. How are you doing, brother? How are you feeling?

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:12)
Doing great. Fresh off the holiday spectacular.

**Jason Calacanis** (0:15)
Oh, good times. And then getting ready for a little ski. You and I will be doing a little skiing together with Friedberg. That'd be quite nice.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:23)
I have to say, Friedberg, I don't think you've skied with me and Jason. Jason is an excellent skier. I mean, I've heard his form.

**Friedrich Hayek** (0:30)
Have I skied with you, Jason? I don't think I have.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:31)
His brother is excellent too. They're both like...

**Jason Calacanis** (0:33)
Josh the Black Bomber is good, yeah.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:35)
Yeah.

**Jason Calacanis** (0:36)
Shout out to Josh the Black Bomber.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:37)
It's gonna be fun.

**Friedrich Hayek** (0:38)
Jason's got those... He's got skiing hips. They kind of shift left, right, left, right. Yeah.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:43)
Childbearing hips.

**Jason Calacanis** (0:44)
It's kind of like when I went to the Tom...

**Friedrich Hayek** (0:45)
The hips are wider than the shoulders, yeah.

**Jason Calacanis** (0:46)
It reminds me of when I went to the Tom Ford out... When I went to Tom Ford to get my suit. I'll do that in just a second. But with us again, of course, your cackling sultan of science, Friedberg. How are you doing?

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:57)
Have you guys seen that clip of the guy with the fake bum that runs around the city? Yes, with security guards.

**Jason Calacanis** (1:03)
It's like some sort of a crypto put on or something. It's hilarious. This guy, he's got like a big Brazilian butt and he just runs around in tight caches.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (1:12)
Nick, can you crack a clip of this guy?

**Friedrich Hayek** (1:14)
Oh my God, it's so ridiculous.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (1:15)
Oh my God, it's so funny. All right.

**Jason Calacanis** (1:16)
With us, the cackling with his afterglow from the holiday spectacular. Let's call it what it is. It's the Christmas spectacular. We're going to pick a side, Friedberg. How did you like our Christmas?

**Friedrich Hayek** (1:27)
Why are you being anti-Semitic, bro?

**Jason Calacanis** (1:29)
How dare you? How dare you? You can have the Hanukkah special with your two specials. And now with us in the Red Throne, it's fit Sacks. It is stylish Sacks. It is. Goes to work every day in Venture Sacks. His name is Keith Rabois. How are you, my brother? Welcome.

**Keith Rabois** (1:49)
Great, great, Jason. Thanks for having me here. You know, it's great being more fit and more fashionable than Sacks is a pretty low bar.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (1:57)
Yes.

**Keith Rabois** (1:57)
So I'm really excited to be with you all now.

**SPEAKER_5** (2:09)
And as said, we open source it to the fans and they've just gone crazy with it.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (2:13)
Love you, S.

**Jason Calacanis** (2:18)
And as we love about you, you've got a little American exceptionalism, supremacy, dare I say. You don't F with dictators.

**Keith Rabois** (2:29)
That's true.

**Jason Calacanis** (2:29)
You don't F with them.

**Keith Rabois** (2:30)
Yeah, I don't really love dictators. They're not good for society. They're not good for America, but you know, it's not always America's job to fix all of that.

**Friedrich Hayek** (2:39)
What about running companies? Should company CEOs be dictators?

**Keith Rabois** (2:43)
Yes, actually. So I believe in the founder mode, the Brian Chesky founder mode. I held a conference in New York recently that Brian was nice enough to speak at called Hiring, the Art of Hiring for Founder Mode. So specifically for people who subscribe, founders that subscribe to that view, how do you hire people and how is that different than what you would hire in a standard, you know, monstrosity of a company like Google or something?

**Jason Calacanis** (3:05)
Yeah, good founder mode in New York, by the way, just history. If I remember correctly, lots of good founder mode in New York.

**Friedrich Hayek** (3:11)
Jay Cal, do you want to give Keith's background for the audience?

**Jason Calacanis** (3:13)
Well, yeah, Keith of course went to Stanford with the boys, Sacks and Peter Thiel went on to do PayPal. He had a stint at Square. He started a bunch of other companies, worked at Founders Fund.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (3:25)
Hold on, hold on. He went to LinkedIn. That's how it all started.

**Keith Rabois** (3:29)
LinkedIn was pretty key. They re-left PayPal, started LinkedIn. I joined them. So yes, that's true. And then after that, I went back with Baxilevchin from PayPal Days to Slide, which is on the Ashley Piff history. We don't have to talk about that. But then I did jump into Square as the 20th employee and helped build a pretty good company.