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Trump vs Harvard, Nvidia export controls, how DEI killed Hollywood with Tim Dillon

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

April 19, 2025

(0:00) The Besties welcome Tim Dillon! (6:56) Nvidia H20 export controls, the China workaround, plausible deniability by chipmakers selling to China-linked entities (28:45) Trump vs.
Speakers: Jason Calacanis, Chamath Palihapitiya, David Sacks, David Friedberg, Tim Dillon
**Jason Calacanis** (0:00)
All right, everybody, welcome back to the number one podcast in the world, The All-In Podcast. After a triumphant week last week, we had an amazing episode. Thanks to Larry Summers and Ezra Klein for joining us for the great Tariff Debate, number four episode in the world last week. And man, we got a banger ready for you today. Before I get to that, a couple of quick plugs.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:24)
Did you call the DNC to clean up the roadkill, Jason?

**Jason Calacanis** (0:27)
I'm an independent, folks. I know these guys keep trying to pin me as a downer. I'm an independent, critical thinker for life. But I do think Ezra has got a little PTSD. I haven't heard from Ezra.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:38)
Does the DNC have a roadkill cleanup crew?

**Jason Calacanis** (0:41)
You know, it's amazing. You have an episode like that where I thought we made great progress on dealing with those issues and came to some consensus at the end. And then every single person universally, if they're on the right, oh my God, Sacks and Chamath destroyed them. If they're on the left, the left's position was, oh my God, Sacks and Chamath finally got destroyed. Anyway, you decide for yourself. We're just here to talk about the most important news stories. And All-In Summit.

**David Sacks** (1:07)
I think Chamath is right. I think they sent the same crew that cleans up the armadillos. My God.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (1:11)
On the road.

**Jason Calacanis** (1:12)
Okay.

**David Friedberg** (1:12)
The armadillos.

**Jason Calacanis** (1:14)
Alrighty, here we go. September 7th to 9th in Los Angeles.

**David Sacks** (1:17)
There are a couple armadillos left lying on the side of the road.

**Jason Calacanis** (1:20)
All right. Okay. All-In Summit is going into its fourth year. Yada yada. September 7th to 9th apply. allin.com/summit.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (1:28)
Pronouns everywhere. Pronouns everywhere on the highway, Jason.

**Jason Calacanis** (1:31)
Pronouns are everywhere.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (1:33)
People are just trying to clean up the pronouns. The shovels weren't big enough for all the pronouns.

**Jason Calacanis** (1:37)
Friedberg was on Jeopardy again, Celebrity Jeopardy. And I don't want to ruin it for you, but he had an amazing comeback victory. But really excited to have on the program today, one of your favorites, he was on the show, Pre-Election.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (1:50)
One of my favorites.

**Jason Calacanis** (1:51)
Robert F. Kennedy is with us again, RFK. How are you doing? I love the glasses. You're going to make America healthy again.

**SPEAKER_5** (1:58)
And welcome to the program, RFK Jr. We found out that autism is caused mainly by this show. And we're going to have to take action. We've started to look at the different causes, but we're thinking it is the debate between Ezra Klein and Larry Summers that is the...

**Jason Calacanis** (2:37)
Tremendous. Everybody knows RFK is going to do a great job. He's a little bit weird, but Wife is a smoke show. I mean, an incredible wife, RFK Jr. Incredible.

**David Sacks** (2:49)
Not as good.

**Jason Calacanis** (2:50)
Not as good. Okay, well, I'm trying to land it.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (2:52)
Yeah.

**Jason Calacanis** (2:52)
What am I supposed to do? I'm up against a professional. You know, so welcome to the program.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (2:56)
Can you just moderate so that Tim can be the comedian?

**Jason Calacanis** (2:58)
Don't talk over me, okay? You just sit down, Chamath.

**David Sacks** (3:02)
Can you do what you did last week?

**Jason Calacanis** (3:04)
Three. What's that? What's that? Moderate for narcissists who all want to add one more thing?

**David Sacks** (3:09)
Let the experts talk.

**David Friedberg** (3:11)
Yes, of course. Here comes Sacks.

**Jason Calacanis** (3:14)
Why can't I talk? Why can't I talk?

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (3:18)
Can you please pass the ball? Just pass the ball. Let's go.

**David Sacks** (3:21)
Just pass the ball and get out of the way.

**Jason Calacanis** (3:22)
Let's welcome our guest, Tim Dillon.

**David Sacks** (3:24)
Let the shooter shoot.

**Jason Calacanis** (3:24)
He's an incredibly funny comedian. He has a new special, I'm Your Mother on Netflix. He's the host of the award-winning, now in its 10th year, Emmy-winning, award-winning, he's got the Emmy, he's got the Tony, he's still gotta get the Grammy and the Oscar, the one, the only Tim Dillon of the Tim Dillon Show podcast.

**Tim Dillon** (3:46)
Thank you so much. Thank you for having me. I feel like I'm having a Zoom meeting with Doge to prove what I've done in the last week. This is what, by the way, this is the last thing someone at the EPA sees. It's just these four guys. They're just staring at a guy like Chamath going, well, we tested some soil. I think we got those numbers back.

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