**Jason Calacanis** (0:00)
All right. You guys were talking about the fun shenanigans you were having in San Francisco and at Mark Benioff's Dreamforce.
**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:09)
Did you see Brian Johnson? Was that Benioff's CEO dinner?
**David Friedberg** (0:13)
Oh, I didn't see him.
**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:14)
Yeah.
**David Sacks** (0:14)
Matthew McConaughey was at our table at dinner.
**Jason Calacanis** (0:16)
All right, all right, all right, David Sacks.
**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:19)
McConaughey's fabulous. He is funny.
**David Sacks** (0:22)
Did you see where I was sitting at that dinner?
**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:25)
Yeah, table one.
**David Sacks** (0:26)
Right next to the king himself.
**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:28)
The king himself, exactly.
**Jason Calacanis** (0:29)
The king, who? The king and I? Benioff is a king?
**David Sacks** (0:33)
Well, he's a king at San Francisco.
**David Friedberg** (0:34)
At his party.
**Jason Calacanis** (0:35)
He's the king of San Francisco.
**David Sacks** (0:36)
Yeah, I mean, obviously, he has to bend the knee to the king of kings, which is Trump, but. I was sitting next to Benioff there.
**Jason Calacanis** (0:45)
It got weird.
**David Sacks** (0:46)
It got a little weird. No, well, what happened was, did you see that SF standards? Yeah, I don't even know how they can write a headline like this, so.
**Jason Calacanis** (0:54)
Well, it's the San Francisco standard.
**David Sacks** (0:55)
Yeah, so Benioff interviewed me at Dreamforce, and somehow this was like headline worthy for SF standard. They said that Mark Benioff dodges political questions, then fawns over David Sacks on Dreamforce day one. That was just referring to the interview we did. We trolled them by taking that photo.
**Jason Calacanis** (1:14)
That's a little weird.
**Chamath Palihapitiya** (1:17)
I thought the fireside chat, you guys, it was great.
**David Sacks** (1:20)
It was great, yeah. It was just an interview.
**Chamath Palihapitiya** (1:22)
It was really good, actually. He's a very good interviewer.
**David Sacks** (1:24)
Yeah, totally. But apparently, to SF standard, it's like some sort of transgression that I was even interviewed.
**David Friedberg** (1:32)
They didn't get the memo that cancel culture is over. They can't.
**David Sacks** (1:35)
I know. That's what it feels like, right? Where they're trying to gin up some sort of brouhaha over the fact that I was speaking.
**David Friedberg** (1:42)
Yeah. Oh, you can't talk to David Sacks. He's in the Trump administration. Not allowed to talk to him. I get about 100 people a week who say that. Literally, the AI guy and the AI CEO shouldn't talk to him. It's like, what the f***? I'm the AI company. I should not talk to the government's AI person.
**David Sacks** (1:59)
By the way, did you see that there was one other very important conference in town at the same time as Dreamforce? I discovered this on my ex feed.
**Jason Calacanis** (2:07)
I feel like a cold open about to have what, the Young Socialists or was it the Republicans?
**David Sacks** (2:11)
It was called Slutcon.
**Jason Calacanis** (2:12)
Oh, Slutcon?
**David Friedberg** (2:13)
Really? Oh, my Lord. Look at this website.
**Jason Calacanis** (2:18)
Oh, this is the agenda. How to be good at s*** with Aaliyah.
**David Friedberg** (2:23)
We cannot do this.
**David Sacks** (2:24)
Cut this out.
**Jason Calacanis** (2:25)
Women venting. Oh, Sacks, that one's for you.
**Chamath Palihapitiya** (2:27)
I would have flat in a o*** you.
**David Friedberg** (2:29)
What is this?
**Jason Calacanis** (2:30)
Oh, Friedberg, here. Friedberg's giving a talk, A Fluffer's Guide to F***ing Jobs by David Friedberg. Is that a panel or is it a fireside, Friedberg? Which one?
**David Friedberg** (2:39)
Reinforcement Learning, Hov Feedback.
**Chamath Palihapitiya** (2:42)
Small groups.
**Jason Calacanis** (2:44)
You could re-underwrite your positions. I see that. Re-underwriting your sexual positions by Chamath.
**David Friedberg** (2:49)
Here's Chamath's, the last one, the VIP room.
**Jason Calacanis** (2:52)
VIP room, yeah, that's Chamath.
**Chamath Palihapitiya** (2:54)
That's pretty short, Chamath.
**David Friedberg** (2:56)
Sacks, how did you hear about this? Don't tell us that you ran out of dinner and went over to the East Bay.
**Jason Calacanis** (3:00)
Sacks, are you on the mailing list? Did they invite you to speak?
**David Sacks** (3:03)
My ex-feed just, you know, it's the new AI algorithm, is just trying to find things you might be interested in.
**Jason Calacanis** (3:09)
Sacks also keynoting this.
**David Sacks** (3:11)
My ex-feed showed me Slutcon. So I clicked on it and now it's been nothing but Slutcon for a couple of days.
**David Friedberg** (3:35)
Chamath, what did you think about walking around San Francisco? So we went on a walk around downtown San Francisco.
**Chamath Palihapitiya** (3:40)
A walk and talk?
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