True Crime Tonight: Full Show (07/06/26)

**SPEAKER_1** (0:00)
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**Meshel Laurie** (0:20)
It's a voice that will send shivers down your spine.

**Matthew Tankard** (0:23)
Stand off with police.

**Meshel Laurie** (0:24)
Wanted fugitive.

**SPEAKER_5** (0:25)
Stabbed 19 times. The suspect lured the victim into the ward.

**Meshel Laurie** (0:29)
Most legal dramas in Hollywood.

**Ruby Bartzis** (0:30)
Today is a major win to show what the system can do.

**SPEAKER_1** (0:34)
This is True Crime Tonight.

**Meshel Laurie** (0:37)
This is True Crime Tonight. I'm your host, Meshel Laurie. I'm here with my producers, Matthew Tankard and Ruby Bartzis. And every Sunday night from six till seven, we'll bring you our True Crime book and documentary recommendations, chat with you, our listeners, and interview some of the biggest names in True Crime. And you know nothing excites me more than when we get a Speakpipe message. And we have one and thank you so much. Please send us messages, drop us a line. It's like leaving a voicemail, give us a ring basically. I love it. And there's links in our show notes. If you're listening to this as a podcast or in our social media as well, Australian True Crime, if you would like to do this, I believe we've got one guys.

**SPEAKER_5** (1:16)
Hey True Crime Tonight, I'm loving the new radio show.
I would love to hear you cover one of my favourite Netflix docos, Don't F With Cats. It would be interesting to hear Michelle's take on Internet sleuths helping crack a case. Love y'all.

**Meshel Laurie** (1:29)
What a great suggestion. And that is one of our suggestions for what you can leave a message about. You can leave us a message about something we've already done. We've got something you want to say about it or something you'd like us to do. Now, this Don't F With Cats is one of the best documentaries I think I've ever seen. I love it. What about you guys?

**Ruby Bartzis** (1:50)
I've actually never seen it. So I'm going to go and watch it.

**Matthew Tankard** (1:53)
I think there's lots of true crime listeners and viewers who think they can handle basically everything with true crime. But then when it comes to animal abuse, it's something completely different.

**Ruby Bartzis** (2:03)
And what kind of animal abuse?

**Meshel Laurie** (2:05)
Well, all right, I'm going to give you two options in a minute, Ruby. But one option you never have to know, and that's the option I took. But do you know what, Matthew? I've had so many people say to me, listeners say to me, why is it we can't handle? And I think it's covered in the documentary as well. Why is it we can't handle animal abuse when we can handle anything else? Like as true crime listeners, readers, watchers, we're so tough and we tend to look at things from the sort of, I don't know how to describe the point of view where we're learning things, where we want to know the forensic evidence, we want to know how they figured that out or stuff like that. And then with animals though, it's just like, nope, no, I cannot, I cannot, I cannot hear about it, I can't know about it.

**Matthew Tankard** (2:52)
What is that do you think? Is it the vulnerability? Is it?

**Ruby Bartzis** (2:55)
They have no voice.

**Meshel Laurie** (2:56)
Yeah. Yeah, it's just so low to me. It's just, I can't even, it's pretty low to murder a lady as she's out jogging.
But there's something about hurting an animal that feels just, I don't know, it's so hard to explain, so I know I'm not the only one. And Ruby, if you Google, this is how I watched it the first time, right? Cause you get the vibe. You know someone's hurting cats in this show.

**Ruby Bartzis** (3:20)
So it's one person?

**Meshel Laurie** (3:22)
Yes, I believe. Look, it's that long since I've seen it, but I suggest we all watch or re-watch it and we'll talk about it at length next week.

**Ruby Bartzis** (3:29)
Incredible.

**Meshel Laurie** (3:30)
But if you are going to play along at home with us, there's a really handy thing you can do. You can Google the timestamps for when animals get hurt in this documentary. Because what it's actually about is, as she said, internet sleuths catching a predator, catching an offender. So that's actually what it's about. These brilliant people looking at the shape of the door or the shape of the electricity socket in the background of a video and figuring out what country it must be in and stuff like that. It's brilliant. But there are moments where cats are hurt. Look, do Google it and please Ruby Google it.