Top Bitcoin Holder: Ask AI To Do THIS, Stop Trying To Out-Work The Robots! | Michael Saylor

**Michael Saylor** (0:00)
I used AI to make $15 billion last year.

**Steven Bartlett** (0:02)
You did. I did.

**Michael Saylor** (0:03)
Because the AI gave us a solution to the problem that no one had ever encountered before in the history of the world. And so my advice is don't try to outwork the robots. What you want to do is ask the AI to do something that's never been done before. And if you want to create these incredible success things, you want to locate the magic opportunity. I know this because I'm a technology entrepreneur. And we're the biggest buyer of Bitcoin in the world. So what is my mission? I'm preaching the gospel of digital empowerment. And Bitcoin is digital money. And it's going to be the best long term capital asset. And you can actually own something and someone more powerful than you can't take it away from you.

**Steven Bartlett** (0:44)
What do you mean they can't take Bitcoin from you?

**Michael Saylor** (0:47)
So this is a stack of currency. You walk through an airport on this. They ask you if you have cash. They just take it. So cash in a physical form is a problem. So what do you do? You put it in a bank. So the bank then decides whether you get to keep it and whether you get it back. But I could move a million dollars of Bitcoin from here to anywhere, to London, to anywhere in cyberspace in a few seconds. So the last thing in the world you want to save is money.

**Steven Bartlett** (1:12)
So what about this? Why not just put all of my money into gold?

**Michael Saylor** (1:15)
Well, gold is up 12 percent a year, but Bitcoin is up 33

**Steven Bartlett** (1:20)
What about the S&P 500?

**Michael Saylor** (1:21)
You're going to get double the performance from BTC that you would get from like the S&P index.

**Steven Bartlett** (1:26)
So should I buy a house?

**Michael Saylor** (1:27)
I will tell you why you shouldn't buy a house.

**Steven Bartlett** (1:29)
And then you sold a bit of Bitcoin recently. After telling a lot of people, sell a kidney if you must, but keep the Bitcoin, so why did you sell the Bitcoin instead of your kidney?

**Michael Saylor** (1:36)
Because.

**Steven Bartlett** (1:39)
Michael, you're just buying Bitcoin. What is a good strategy to build and become wealthy in your view? And then you have 10 rules for young adults building a strong foundation for their life and career. So let's go through these.

**Michael Saylor** (1:49)
So first.

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Michael, because of your success as a technology entrepreneur, you are a multi-billionaire from my math, and you're heavily focused on digital currencies at the moment, specifically Bitcoin. What else do we need to know about you in terms of what you've built and accomplished outside of that?

**Michael Saylor** (2:42)
I always wanted to make a technical contribution, so the early business was business intelligence. How do you extract intelligence from large raw data sources? That was what MicroStrategy did. We created a global business intelligence company.
I think in 2020, when the COVID lockdowns took place and the world turned upside down, that was when I discovered my greatest idea, and it wasn't even my idea. It was Satoshi's idea, but I discovered Bitcoin in 2020, and the company today is $60 billion, but we peaked about $125 billion. So we got somewhere between 100 and 200 times bigger since we discovered Bitcoin.

**Steven Bartlett** (3:24)
And when you speak to the general public now, when you do podcasts like this, what is the essence of the message that you're aiming to communicate to them?

**Michael Saylor** (3:32)
Bitcoin is digital empowerment, digital capital. We're living through the digital transformation of assets, and this is just as profound transformation as digital intelligence. The real profound breakthrough of Bitcoin is this idea that you can take economic energy, convert it to digital form, and tightly bind it to the person, the family, the company, the country. We can talk about how we all hate countries, but the history of the world is all the weak countries getting smashed by all the big countries. So if what you're interested in is empowerment and fairness, and equity for the small company, the small family, the small person, the small country, the weak, how do you do it? Well, you basically encrypt the money, put it in cyberspace, protect it with a private key.