Top 10 LA Japanese Restaurants, Kojima Review & Sicko Max

**Jordan Okun** (0:11)
If you love Mad Food, you'll understand the importance of being in the business of booze, Max. Does it suit me, being in business with Jumbo Time Wine and booze in general?

**Max Shapiro** (0:24)
It's seamless to me, it suits you.

**Jordan Okun** (0:28)
You know, but even though I'm in the business of booze now, you know, I go to a restaurant, chefs give me Diet Coke still. They're not bringing out the display of affection with booze like they do with Diet Cokes.

**Max Shapiro** (0:40)
The booze thing is new.

**Jordan Okun** (0:42)
People need to get used to it.

**Max Shapiro** (0:43)
Yeah.

**Jordan Okun** (0:44)
Okay.

**Max Shapiro** (0:45)
Hold on, let me pop a lozenge because I'm losing my voice.

**Jordan Okun** (0:48)
Max is losing his voice, but he claims he's not sick.

**Max Shapiro** (0:51)
How am I, I can do a backflip right now, baby.

**Jordan Okun** (0:53)
So you just lose your voice from time to time? Were you screaming?
Were you rooting for the Knicks? Congratulations to the New York Knickerbockers.

**Max Shapiro** (1:03)
I believe on this podcast, I said, I think the Knicks could win the championship or would win the championship.

**Jordan Okun** (1:08)
Okay, good. Great. I'll get you a prize.

**Max Shapiro** (1:11)
Thank you.

**Jordan Okun** (1:12)
Mad Jumbo is the promo code, 20% off, celebrate the Knicks all summer long, right?

**Max Shapiro** (1:20)
With orange wine.

**Jordan Okun** (1:21)
Jumbo time, wine. Right, with orange wine.

**Max Shapiro** (1:24)
They don't have any blue wine, unfortunately.

**Jordan Okun** (1:25)
Well, Johnny Jumbo, get on it. That's a great idea.

**Max Shapiro** (1:30)
They do make blueberry wine. Blueberry wine, they meaning like the makers of booze. There is such a thing as blueberry wine.

**Jordan Okun** (1:37)
Okay, we got to get Johnny, we got to offer the orange, start a blue, put it together in a pack. You'll be a billionaire from all these ravenous Knicks fans. And if they don't drink it, they'll just break the bottles over Spurs fans' heads.

**Max Shapiro** (1:52)
Mostly Wemby.

**Jordan Okun** (1:54)
Right, or they'll look for Wemby to break bottles over his head. But mostly anyone in a Spurs jersey, they'll just break it over their head.

**Max Shapiro** (2:00)
Sure, but sure.

**Jordan Okun** (2:02)
This is great. Even more ways to buy more Jumbo Time Wine. Isn't that right, Max?

**Max Shapiro** (2:07)
That's right.

**Jordan Okun** (2:08)
Mad Jumbo is the promo code, 20% off. Okay, Max, you are extremely opinionated in general.

**Max Shapiro** (2:19)
That's correct.

**Jordan Okun** (2:20)
And I think you have referred to yourself as a snob.

**Max Shapiro** (2:25)
Yes.

**Jordan Okun** (2:25)
Okay. And a huge Japanophile, of course.

**Max Shapiro** (2:31)
Into it.

**Jordan Okun** (2:32)
And you have been extremely critical of Los Angeles Kaiseki's in the past.

**Max Shapiro** (2:41)
Well, we don't have many, but yes.

**Jordan Okun** (2:43)
Often, many celebrated ones.

**Max Shapiro** (2:46)
Sure.

**Jordan Okun** (2:47)
Right? And Naka in particular.

**Max Shapiro** (2:50)
Yes.

**Jordan Okun** (2:51)
A generally celebrated Kaiseki that you do not feel should be celebrated as much as it's celebrated. But you have found a new Kaiseki that you want to celebrate.

**Max Shapiro** (3:06)
Yes.

**Jordan Okun** (3:06)
So what is Kojima?

**Max Shapiro** (3:09)
Kojima is on Sautel above the Nagoya in a mini mall.

**Jordan Okun** (3:18)
What is Nagoya?

**Max Shapiro** (3:19)
Nagoya, it's a Japanese market.

**Jordan Okun** (3:21)
Okay. Great.

**Max Shapiro** (3:23)
Great Japanese things, raw fish.

**Jordan Okun** (3:26)
Are you sure you're not sick?

**Max Shapiro** (3:28)
Yes, I'm 100 percent sure.

**Jordan Okun** (3:29)
Because even your energy is low.

**Max Shapiro** (3:30)
My energy is not low.

**Jordan Okun** (3:32)
Your energy is low. Now he's getting up.

**Max Shapiro** (3:34)
What do you want from me? You're the one that gets it up. I just keep it even.

**Jordan Okun** (3:40)
I don't understand. How do you lose your voice? You're not screaming.

**Max Shapiro** (3:44)
I'm not a doctor. I don't know these things.

**Jordan Okun** (3:47)
I think this means you're sick.

**Max Shapiro** (3:49)
See, when you lose your voice a little bit and you have to pop a recall, are you sick?

**Jordan Okun** (3:55)
Sometimes. A lot of times, yeah.

**Max Shapiro** (3:57)
Operative word, sometimes. I'm not sick. I feel totally fine.

**Jordan Okun** (4:01)
Okay. You're crazy. The whole thing is like, I never get sick.

**Max Shapiro** (4:05)
I don't.

**Jordan Okun** (4:05)
It's like a badge of honor that you wear, but I just think you do get sick and you just don't admit to it when you are sick.