TITO JACKSON Was UNDERRATED?! Craig & Big Mac Debate Music's Biggest SAVANTS artwork

TITO JACKSON Was UNDERRATED?! Craig & Big Mac Debate Music's Biggest SAVANTS

The Carton Show with Craig Carton & Chris McMonigle

August 12, 2026

Craig Carton and Chris “Big Mac” McMonigle get into a wild debate over Tito Jackson and the Jackson 5, with a caller making the case that Tito was far more talented than people give him credit for. The conversation then turns into a bigger debate: Who are the true musical savants?
Speakers: Craig Carton, Chris McMonigle

Topics: Sports

**Craig Carton** (0:00)
We have Marty and Lenny's with our capesios on. Did you request bad disco throughout the day tonight?

**Chris McMonigle** (0:07)
I did not.

**Craig Carton** (0:08)
Are you sure?

**Chris McMonigle** (0:08)
But I'm not hating it.

**Craig Carton** (0:11)
Nico, how old are you, by the way?

**SPEAKER_3** (0:13)
I turned 27 on Friday.

**Craig Carton** (0:16)
Oh, so start acting like it, will you, please? Unless you're like an old soul or something like that. He's 27 this Friday?

**Chris McMonigle** (0:23)
Yeah.

**Craig Carton** (0:24)
Are you going to be here on Friday or no? I will not be. What are you doing for your birthday?

**Chris McMonigle** (0:28)
So Friday night I'm playing in a men's league softball game.

**Craig Carton** (0:32)
There you go, as you should. Nice to meet more guys who want to play softball. Right here. A lot of guys like to talk about sports so they hate playing sports.

**Chris McMonigle** (0:39)
Apparently.

**Craig Carton** (0:39)
Yeah.
But not only that, a lot of guys like to talk about people that do play sports but never show their face in front of those people that play sports. A lot of that going around here too. I'm sorry, what else did you say?

**SPEAKER_3** (0:49)
And then Saturday I'm throwing a party.

**Craig Carton** (0:51)
For yourself? Yeah.
Well, I mean, don't you have any friends or family alive that love you? Of course, yeah. Everybody's coming.

**SPEAKER_3** (0:59)
Yeah.

**Craig Carton** (0:59)
So you're like, hey everybody, it's my birthday. I'm throwing myself a party. Yo, come in. Is it like, everyone's got to bring one item to the party kind of thing or what is it?

**SPEAKER_3** (1:08)
I came up with the idea and now my brother's the one planning it.

**Craig Carton** (1:12)
So you're like to your brother, hey Billy, I'm turning 27 I'd like you to throw me a party for my birthday.

**SPEAKER_3** (1:17)
Right.

**Craig Carton** (1:17)
Is that kind of deal?

**SPEAKER_3** (1:18)
Yeah. Well, listen.

**Craig Carton** (1:20)
All right. Where's the party at? Like house or?

**Chris McMonigle** (1:22)
Yeah.

**SPEAKER_3** (1:22)
My backyard.

**Craig Carton** (1:23)
Your backyard?

**Chris McMonigle** (1:23)
He's not having a party. He's having a party. He's having everybody over to hang out for his birthday.

**SPEAKER_3** (1:29)
I celebrate me.

**Chris McMonigle** (1:30)
At 26

**SPEAKER_3** (1:31)
Birthday party.

**Chris McMonigle** (1:31)
Yeah, of course.

**SPEAKER_3** (1:32)
What he's doing.

**Craig Carton** (1:33)
It just sucks that like your brother and your friends didn't come to you and say, hey, we know next Friday is your birthday. We want to throw you a party. What time works? You got to say to them, hey guys, this is my birthday.
I want you guys to throw me a party at my house.

**Chris McMonigle** (1:51)
Bring all your friends.

**Craig Carton** (1:52)
Yeah, bring somebody, like somebody. Now, do you live with your folks still?
Yes. So, it's your child at home. Got it. Well, that's going to be great. Yeah. You got a pool in the backyard?

**Chris McMonigle** (2:02)
I do, yeah, in-ground.

**SPEAKER_3** (2:04)
Nice.

**Chris McMonigle** (2:05)
I like that.

**Craig Carton** (2:06)
That's a flex right there.

**SPEAKER_3** (2:07)
That's it right there. You guys could come if you want. We were invited.

**Chris McMonigle** (2:10)
Yeah, thanks for the invite.

**Craig Carton** (2:11)
Well, that's a BS invitation, to be honest with you.

**Chris McMonigle** (2:13)
Yeah, and Craig's big on deadlines and you are way past it.

**Craig Carton** (2:16)
You are way past the deadline for me to change my plans for the weekend to go to your birthday party. Plus, there's a good chance I don't remember your name tomorrow, to be honest with you.
Wait, because you produced yesterday's show and I said to Big Mac off the air, have I met Nico before? He goes, hundreds of times.

**Chris McMonigle** (2:35)
At least a couple.

**Craig Carton** (2:36)
I'm like, I don't think so.

**Chris McMonigle** (2:38)
Just the name didn't stick out.

**Craig Carton** (2:39)
I told you, it stuck out. I love the name, though.

**Chris McMonigle** (2:41)
It stuck out with my kids.

**Craig Carton** (2:45)
The name Nico?

**Chris McMonigle** (2:46)
In January, whatever, we came here with the boys. I forget exactly why. I had to do the show with them. Or I came here just to do something. I forget.

**Craig Carton** (2:53)
Yeah.

**Chris McMonigle** (2:53)
They go home. My mother's like, so you went to daddy's work. How was that? What did you guys do?

**Craig Carton** (2:57)
Yeah.

**Chris McMonigle** (2:58)
First thing from both of them, we met Nico. The first thing they said, because he was on the board that day. We came in for a Saturday show. Maybe I forget what it was.

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