“This Name Game Gets Dark Fast” - Andre Williams’ Brutal One‑Word Verdicts on Obama, Jay-Z and MLK

**SPEAKER_1** (0:01)
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**SPEAKER_2** (0:30)
The one word that comes to mind, Jay-Z. Barack Obama.

**Andre Williams** (0:37)
Hero.

**SPEAKER_1** (0:38)
Really?

**Andre Williams** (0:38)
Yeah. Symbol of excellence for black people.

**SPEAKER_2** (0:41)
George Floyd. MLK.

**Andre Williams** (0:45)
House. That's true.

**SPEAKER_2** (0:47)
Drake. Jewish.

**Andre Williams** (0:51)
Jewish. Well, he is black and Jewish, right?

**SPEAKER_2** (0:57)
Byron Donalds.

**Andre Williams** (0:59)
Clown.

**SPEAKER_2** (1:00)
You think so?

**Andre Williams** (1:01)
1000%.
Another example of what I'm talking about. I like James Fishback. I think James Fishback is an example of that change in politics. Byron represents the establishment.

**SPEAKER_2** (1:13)
Have you heard some of the stuff Fishback has?

**Andre Williams** (1:15)
I've heard. Yeah.

**SPEAKER_2** (1:15)
I had him on the podcast.

**Andre Williams** (1:16)
I follow James Fishback.

**SPEAKER_2** (1:19)
By the way, I had him on and we talked about some ideas. I was like, okay, great. These are some good ideas he's got. Then I saw him in a video.

**Andre Williams** (1:26)
About the black dude.

**SPEAKER_2** (1:26)
About the black dude saying, I hope you get lynched or something like that.

**Andre Williams** (1:30)
What was the context of that?

**SPEAKER_2** (1:32)
Because the guy approached him and said, there is accusations of you with an underaged girl, 16 years old.
You want to pull it up? That's it right there. Go ahead, Rob.

**SPEAKER_1** (1:48)
Why is he not answering the question, bro? I'm happy to answer the question, dude. Did you smash? Was it missionary back shots? What was it?
Listen, I don't want you ever, I don't want you ever speaking about women in our state like that ever again. I mean, I don't want you ever smashing girls, teenage girls in our state ever again. So promise me, never smash a minor again.

**SPEAKER_2** (2:06)
Why haven't I been arrested?

**SPEAKER_1** (2:07)
I don't know. Why haven't I been arrested? I don't know. Why hasn't Trump been?

**SPEAKER_2** (2:10)
You should be lynched.

**Andre Williams** (2:12)
I should be lynched? Honestly, that's kind of funny, I'm not gonna lie. That's wild as hell, but it's funny. I've seen the clip, wild shit to say to somebody right here.

**SPEAKER_1** (2:22)
It's wild, dude.

**Andre Williams** (2:23)
You gotta think about it. The things that, I want you to think about this. 10 years ago, a lot of stuff we're talking about today. Be black people, be the Jewish community. You couldn't say.
Today, you can say whatever the hell you want. And it's kind of funny, like damn, dude just said that.

**SPEAKER_2** (2:38)
Who helped that?

**Andre Williams** (2:39)
Who helped that? What?

**SPEAKER_2** (2:40)
Who were the pioneers that helped you be able to say stuff like this?

**Andre Williams** (2:44)
I would say what he represents beyond that.

**SPEAKER_2** (2:45)
No, no, no. What other individuals helped pioneer the ability to speak like this?

**Andre Williams** (2:53)
The frustration with the censorship in this country, especially on social media.

**SPEAKER_2** (2:57)
Yeah.

**Andre Williams** (2:58)
I'm 25 I grew up playing Call of Duty. You can say whatever you want. During the recession era, you said whatever the hell you want on the internet.

**SPEAKER_2** (3:04)
See, I don't come from that era, right? On gamers, does anybody get banned if you use certain words?

**Andre Williams** (3:11)
You get banned now, yeah. But back in the day, you didn't. You didn't get banned.
This was something that a lot of us who grew up with that era, especially if you're like a younger millennial, say like you're early to mid-30s, you understand this as well. We grew up in this time, the internet, you could say whatever you want. It was free. You didn't have to worry about censorship.

**SPEAKER_2** (3:29)
How old were you at that time?

**Andre Williams** (3:30)
At the time, we're playing Call of Duty, like the model referred to us, like nine years old.

**SPEAKER_2** (3:34)
Oh, so you were able to say anything.

**Andre Williams** (3:35)
You could say whatever you want. It was a fun time. And the thing is that if you got to fend it, all right, play it out in the match.
If you win the match, you get to say whatever you want even more. And it was a cycle of that. The internet was, before 2016, before Trump, honestly, before Trump, you could say whatever you want. Then Trump came in, and that's when the censorship started cracking down more.