This Is How To Master Your Life - David Goggins - #577

**Chris Williamson** (0:00)
Hello, everybody. Welcome back to the show. My guest today is David Goggins. He's a retired United States Navy Seal, ultra marathon runner, triathlete, public speaker and an author. The ability to overcome challenges in life is one we will all need sooner or later. Make no mistake, discomfort is coming for you, whether you're ready or not. Goggins happens to be one of the best individuals on earth at dealing with hard things. And after a very long time, without any podcast appearances, I might have been in Vegas to find out what new insights he's uncovered. Expect to learn what most people get wrong about motivation, Goggins' thoughts on claims that seal selection is too hard, what the most painful experience of his life was, the danger of success making you soft, why he ran the Moab 240 twice with no knee cartilage, why he recorded a mixtape of insults from the internet, how to overcome laziness, what David's entire daily routine looks like, and much more. This is a very special episode. I hope that you take absolutely tons away from it. It's open and vulnerable, it's raw, it's motivational. It's fantastic. The guy is the real deal. However legit you think David Goggins is, he's even more legit than that. I can't wait to get this episode out. And if you fall in love with the audio version, there is a beautiful 4K cinematic production available on the Chris Williamson YouTube channel, which you can go and check out. Also, I am sorry to say that this is only one of two podcasts that David will be doing in total for his new book. So he did Rogan in December, he's doing Modern Wisdom right now, and that's it. And he's going away for maybe another four years or so. So if you are a David Goggins fan, this is all you're getting. And if you would like to say thank you to me for somehow managing to swindle my way into being one of only two podcasts that he did, all that I would ask of you is that you hit the subscribe button on whatever platform you're listening to. It genuinely does help the show. It makes me very happy indeed. And it ensures that you will never miss an episode when they go live. But if you want to be a superstar, you can share the episode with a friend as well. Anyway, enough of that. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome David Goggins. David Goggins, welcome to the show.

**David Goggins** (2:32)
Hey man, I appreciate you having me, brother. Thank you.

**Chris Williamson** (2:34)
Thank you for being here. Where have you been for the last four years? You've been jumping out of helicopters and fighting fires and shit. What have you been doing?

**David Goggins** (2:40)
Well, I did that last year. I guess this year I did that, but I just do me.
I'm out there running, working out, and just trying to find out more of what this is all about, trying to find out more of what I'm all about. So that takes me getting away. I'm not about even doing these podcasts, man. So nothing against you, but I'm not about all this stuff. I'm not one that likes to hear himself talk a lot about action, and action means less talking and more doing. So that's where I've been.

**Chris Williamson** (3:17)
What is that smoke jumping stuff?

**David Goggins** (3:19)
So basically, it's, you know about wildland firefighting, about when the forest has fires. There's a lot of times there's roads and there's access to get there. So these, you know, whether it be a hotshot crew or whatever, these different crews who come in by vehicle, they can get into the fire that way. What a smoke jumper is, is you can't get a vehicle into that place. It is a spot where it's tight, there's no vehicles, there's no access. So they'll send us in there, smoke jumpers, jump out of airplanes, and we'll land in these really tight, small drop zones with all of our gear, and we'll put the fire out.

**Chris Williamson** (4:02)
How do you take water in?

**David Goggins** (4:03)
We jump out. So everything is-

**Chris Williamson** (4:05)
Hang on, you're jumping out of a-

**David Goggins** (4:07)
Airplane, parachute.

**Chris Williamson** (4:09)
With backpacks of water, like a camel pack type thing?

**David Goggins** (4:12)
So we'll jump out, we'll have this, it's called a diddy pack, and it sits by your waist, on your legs area when you jump out, and that has a lot of your gear, but what happens is once you jump out, the aircraft will go lower and will push out all the rest of your gear, your water pumps.