They Located FOUR Extraterrestrial Bases - Dr. Paul Smith | ep.106
AREA52 Podcast With Chris Ramsay
November 6, 2026
-------------------------------------------------------------------------- Second Channel: @area52clips Paul H. Smith, Ph.D., is a retired U.S. Army Major, intelligence officer and Desert Storm veteran.
Speakers Chris Ramsay, Paul Smith
TopicsHistory
Chris Ramsay (0:00)
Imagine, if you will, collecting a paycheck from the United States government for being a psychic spot. I can feel the skeptics getting uncomfortable already, but rest assured, that is a fact. This is Paul Smith. He's a retired Army major, and back in the 1980s, he spent about seven years at Fort Meade in a classified program you might know as Stargate. And his official job? Well, it was sitting in a gray room with nothing but a pen and a pad describing places he'd never been for people who wouldn't tell him what he was supposed to be looking at. Now, if you're not familiar with this program, I won't bore you with all the details. I did make a three-part mini-documentary series early on in the channel if you want to check that out, but sufficient to say this was a real program with oversight, within the US government, for 20 years. Well, after he retired from this program in 2011, Paul gets a call from, well, we can surmise it was someone in the government.
He asked to put together a remote-viewing team for a very interesting and very secret mission, and the target would be the 2004 USS Nimitz encounter, the Tic-Tac. But this is 2011 This is six years before the New York Times told the world about it.
We also get into the moon sessions, where Paul interacted with what he describes as a sentient craft, which reacted to him during his remote viewing session. And finally, Paul and a team of remote viewers were tasked to remote view four secret extraterrestrial military bases, not on Mars, not on the moon, but right here on Earth. We get into that plus a whole bunch more. Paul is a fascinating guest. He has a PhD of studying consciousness and parapsychology, and was tasked with over 1,000 remote viewing sessions during his time working for the government. Please enjoy this conversation with my friend, Paul Smith.
SPEAKER_2 (2:05)
Hi, Betty and I took my great date out for a walk. I'm not sure what time of night it was. It was after dark, kind of a remote area. And we saw this thing, this glowing thing up in the sky.
And it was pretty far away. And it got closer and closer to the point where we were running away from it. My dog would stop a big old great day and bark, bark, bark at it. And then he'd keep running with us. It was kind of a classic disc shape, but I'd say as big as a, bigger than a busk. I remember it was white, but also gold. And the gold was like the prettiest gold color. Light, I can remember seeing.
And pretty sure we might have lost a little time looking back. And then I found out more about it recently. Anyway, love your show. Keep doing what you're doing.
Chris Ramsay (3:10)
Folks, we are here with one of the longest, I would say one of the longest serving psychic spies in history. Is that fair to say?
Paul Smith (3:18)
That's fair. I mean, there are, Joe McManigal is still around. Yes. I want to give credit to the senior people. Definitely. But yeah, in terms of longevity, I've been at it a long time.
Chris Ramsay (3:29)
Okay. For those who don't know, Paul Smith, you recruited in 1983 to a remote viewing program, which at the time was not Stargate, which became Stargate. Was it Grill Flame or Center Lane at that time?
Paul Smith (3:40)
It had just barely become Center Lane.
Chris Ramsay (3:42)
Okay. It just became Center Lane.
Paul Smith (3:43)
Yeah. I mean, if you look at the constitution of the whole thing, it was technically Stargate. It just hadn't been called that yet.
Chris Ramsay (3:53)
I understand.
Paul Smith (3:54)
The Stargate name, in fact, was the final nickname. They call them project nicknames, right? So you can talk about a project that is classified with an unclassified term. That's the idea of it. Stargate was introduced at the appropriate time administratively to have a new nickname. Nickname. It then became the final name of the program because they canceled it while it was still Stargate.
So it's become known as that ever since. It's kind of the rubric, the umbrella name to call it. And I kind of like having a single name to address it. I mean, you can say, well, suddenly, since we started Stargate, you're going to list them all up that you were in. And yeah, that's awkward.
Chris Ramsay (4:36)
It's all the same thing, essentially. But you have under your belt, I mean, you are a remote viewer, a training instructor, a unit historian, also a security officer. And you have over a thousand training and operational sessions with Remote Viewing, which is quite substantial. And I expect a lot of those are probably, you know, run of the mill remote viewing targets. And today we're going to get into some of them that weren't as well, because I think that's really what I want to hear about, what a lot of the audience, I'm sure, is thrilled to listen to as well. And then you ended your, you weren't retired. In 1990, you went to Desert Storm, is that correct, for the liberation of Kuwait?
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