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The Zen of Nobody Caring | Valerie Bertinelli | Mackenzie Phillips | Tetyana Denford

Getting Naked: The Podcast

October 5, 2026

Valerie's guest this week is Tetyana Denford, the writer and author behind the "nobody cares" movement that's taken over Instagram — and quickly took over Valerie's algorithm too.

Speakers Valerie Bertinelli, Mackenzie Phillips, Tetyana Denford

TopicsSelf-ImprovementEducation

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SPEAKER_4 (1:30)

Hi.

Valerie Bertinelli (1:30)

Thanks for showing up for Getting Naked, the Podcast. We have a really special guest today. I know I say that about everybody, but all my guests are special. I love them.

I fell in love with this woman after she ended up in my algorithm. I'm so glad she did because some stuff is not so great that ends in my algorithm, but she was a huge, like immediately follow. I press follow immediately. A lot of other people are too because she started a whole movement and I want to talk about it with her. Stay tuned for Tetyana Denford.

I have a really fun recipe for you today. You saw how easy that was. Look at all that flavor we packed into chicken breast. I love the flavor of maple syrup, especially for these kind of muffins. I see all of your comments. I swear I do. You are wondering, where's my show? This is so dang delicious. Smells divine. That's a jalapeno popper. Oh my god, it's so good. Yes, I'm back and I am cooking for all of you. All right, Sophie, what are we reheating today? Welcome to Now Val's Cooking. Guess what we're gonna make right now. We're live.

Mackenzie Phillips (2:43)

Hi everybody, how are you?

Valerie Bertinelli (2:44)

You have to go to Valerie's Place. That's where you can see our book group, this podcast. That's where you can go for all the cooking that you wanna see. Oh, yes. I've missed cooking for you. I'm glad I finally get to do it again.

SPEAKER_7 (2:56)

I'm dancing, that's how good it is.

Valerie Bertinelli (2:58)

So head to valeriesplace.com and go ahead and sign up. You guys are the original members and I can't thank you enough. It's happy time.

Okay. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Valerie's Place. Hey, before we get started, I just wanna let you know that if you wanna be a part of the big reveal, or sorry, the full reveal, you have to go to valeriesplace.com and become a member. If you're watching on YouTube or Spotify, you will still get this episode, but there is a little part of the big reveal that you will not be able to see because that's just for Valerie's Place members. So head on over there right now and become a member if you like. If not, okay, just keep watching. I have a really fun guest today. Now, this is a thing that I love about doing this podcast because it allows me to connect with people that I like, people that I admire, that I respect, that I'm getting to know on the internet. It also allows me to share those people with all of you, which brings me to my guest today. So I actually found Tetyana the way so many people do, on Instagram, on her account, which is surprising to me because Instagram's algorithm can be so fucked up for some of us, but I was lucky to get her in to my Instagram feed and I started following her immediately.

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