The ultimate guide to PR | Emilie Gerber (founder of Six Eastern)

**Emilie Gerber** (0:00)
No one ever gets this tactical in PR. There's just so much theoretical conversation and examining the big blunders. But at the end of the day, if you're a startup that wants to get coverage for your company, you need to know actually the steps to take to do it.

**Lenny Rachitsky** (0:13)
You mentioned a bunch of amazing companies. You've worked with RAM, Perplexity. Most products don't have as interesting of a story to tell. How do you help find something that is a nugget?

**Emilie Gerber** (0:21)
You can get so in the weeds with your own messaging that you want to set up this massive problem statement. You want to make it a huge trend story. But if you're very straightforward and you're like pattern matching, it's generally actually going to work.

**Lenny Rachitsky** (0:32)
So I asked you to bring some examples of pitches that are great and also examples of pitches that could be better.

**Emilie Gerber** (0:38)
I want to read one to you and then I want to see if you can tell me what this company does.

**Lenny Rachitsky** (0:44)
Deal.
Today, my guest is Emilie Gerber. Emilie is the founder and CEO of Six Eastern, a PR agency that has worked with over 100 tech companies from stealth startups to publicly traded companies, helping them get press, build awareness and level up their PR and comms strategy. Before starting her own firm, she worked at Uber, where she led PR for the business development team and B2B programs. Prior to that, she worked at Box on product communications with a focus on product launches and partnership announcements. In our conversation, Emilie shares so many golden nuggets of advice on how to get press that I lost count. We talk about which publications to target depending on your market and story, how to craft your pitch in your outreach to reporters, how to actually reach reporters, and also how to craft your product story for people to pay attention to what you're doing, why warm introductions to reporters aren't actually that important, how to find podcasts and newsletters to pitch that might be even more effective than traditional media, how much it would cost you to work with a PR agency instead of doing it yourself, and how much lead time you need if you do that. Also, we go through a few real life examples of press and outreach, both good examples and bad examples, and what we can learn from those. Also, we look at a pitch that Emilie sent to me about a podcast guest that is a client of hers that worked, and this guest is coming out in the future, so we look at what was effective about that pitch, and so much more. If you enjoy this podcast, don't forget to subscribe and follow on your favorite podcasting app or YouTube. It's the best way to avoid missing future episodes, and it helps the podcast tremendously. With that, I bring you Emilie Gerber, after a short word from our sponsors.
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