The Trades You Make to Live Your Dreams - I Prevail - #1023 artwork

The Trades You Make to Live Your Dreams - I Prevail - #1023

Modern Wisdom

November 22, 2025

Eric Vanlerberghe is a vocalist, songwriter, and founding member of the band I Prevail. Gabe Helguera is a drummer, and co-founder of Drum Beats Online (DBO), and a member of the band I Prevail From the outside, the life of a heavy-metal band seems larger-than-life.
Speakers: Chris Williamson, Gabe Helguera, Eric Vanlerberghe

Topics: Society & Culture, Health & Fitness

**Chris Williamson** (0:00)
Why did you get deep-throated by Confetti?

**Gabe Helguera** (0:05)
That is up-to-date research right there.

**Eric Vanlerberghe** (0:07)
Yeah, wow. I respect that. Yeah, so, yeah, Gabe really crushes it with our content and comes up with some awesome ideas, and we kind of pitch some and throw it into a pot. And we came in for a content day and wrote this whole script up, and it was for this giveaway we were doing, and he had written in the script that he was going to get pied in the face. And then Dylan shows up, and I don't know, he just changed his mind on the spot. I was like, yeah, Dylan's going to get pied.

**Gabe Helguera** (0:31)
I got to be the guy behind the camera, so someone else has got to take the pie. So we pied Dylan in the face quite a bit. And from that night, Dylan plotted his revenge for pie and confetti in Eric's face.

**Eric Vanlerberghe** (0:45)
Yeah, and I got a shout out. We came as Romans, because they went along with it. We get into their trailer, and I get a text, and they have this ritual before their show. It's whiskey time, and they go, have this little ritual, and get to the trailer now, whiskey time. So I'm walking in, going whiskey time, whiskey time, pie, pie it again. And now I can't see, and my mouth's open, and I'm just like, whiskey time. And as soon as I said time, I couldn't see anything. I just got a mouthful of I didn't know what. And then, yeah, I couldn't breathe for a little bit, and the uvula in the back of my throat turned into a disco ball. It was like, it was pretty great.

**Gabe Helguera** (1:19)
You can title it your autobiography.

**Chris Williamson** (1:21)
The uvula in my throat.

**Gabe Helguera** (1:22)
A mouthful of I don't know what.

**Eric Vanlerberghe** (1:24)
Yeah. I trademarked it. I'm taking that.

**Chris Williamson** (1:28)
Yeah. Well, I don't know, I feel like having a confetti bukkake is a good way to start a show.

**Eric Vanlerberghe** (1:35)
Yeah, yeah, I think it might have to be a ritual, just not on me this time. Dylan, you're old one.

**Gabe Helguera** (1:41)
There's gonna be some behind the scenes warfare, for sure. This will start a two year war.

**Chris Williamson** (1:47)
Okay, this is the beginning of a vicious retributive cycle. Yes, definitely. I want to know what you guys make of what's happening with the rock and metal scene at the moment because a lot of artists are rethinking touring. There's some reports that have come out recently that I've read. Pop, hip-hop, country, little touch and go, some in decline, and certainly, if you aggregate it, a lot in decline. But rock touring seems to be bigger than ever.
Give me your thoughts. You guys have been around for a minute.

**Eric Vanlerberghe** (2:21)
Yeah.

**Chris Williamson** (2:21)
What do you make of the arc of alternative and heavy music and stuff like that?

**Eric Vanlerberghe** (2:27)
Yeah.
I think rock and metal, we'll call it modern metal, it feels like a boom right now, a resurgence. Just having chats with friends and it's like, I'm 34 but back when I was like 15, 16, 17, I didn't have the funds to go out and see my favorite bands come through Detroit or whatever it may be. Now that we're of the age and have some disposable income, when these bands do these 20-year anniversary shows and come back around and they have this lineup of all these other bands that you may have grew up listening to on top of having some of these new bands and it kind of just appeals to our generation and then, I don't have any kids but I can imagine my kids, the next generation, it's like a family affair so they're going out and seeing bands like, I mean, we just played when we were young in Blink 182 and Panic at the Disco or Headlining. And then-

**Chris Williamson** (3:23)
Taking back Sunday, brand new.

**Eric Vanlerberghe** (3:25)
The used, man, that lineup is just stacked but now, you go out there and you see kids that are like 15 to 18 and then you see dudes our age and older that are out there all in the crowd and I don't know, I think there's a bit of nostalgia. I think there's, yeah, I don't know how-

**Chris Williamson** (3:41)
It's not just throwback, right?

**Eric Vanlerberghe** (3:43)
No, no.

**Chris Williamson** (3:43)
All new bands with new albums, new music coming out all the time too.

**Gabe Helguera** (3:48)

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