The Subtext: The Separation of Church & Business

Lee C. Camp (0:00)

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Now, on to the show. Savannah, welcome to our show.

Savannah Locke (0:20)

Welcome to our show, Lee. How are the vibes?

Lee C. Camp (0:23)

The vibes are good today.

Savannah Locke (0:25)

You're looking so profesh.

Lee C. Camp (0:26)

Well, since we're talking about business, I thought I should put on a support coat.

Savannah Locke (0:30)

Dress for the job you want.

Lee C. Camp (0:31)

Dress for the job you want, something like that.

Savannah Locke (0:34)

Lee, for today's introduction, I want to read a review and then talk about a message that someone sent to us.

Lee C. Camp (0:40)

Okay.

Savannah Locke (0:41)

Number one is a review from Dave Stewart.

He said, I just found your podcast randomly searching for Odyssey reviews. I'm not a Christian and frankly, I often avoid openly Christian media because I assume it'll be inflexible and unreflective. So real.

I have to say, I really enjoyed both your discussions around zoomed out COC sectarian differences and also the inherent challenges around contemporary interpretations of such a loaded and evasive text as the Odyssey.

Very thoughtful, interesting and above all, self-aware. I don't live in a Christian country and I hope you'll forgive me for admitting that these qualities are not usually what I anticipate going into interactions with Christians. However, I very much enjoyed your reflections and I think it reflects very well on both of you, that you can communicate so effectively with someone, me, basically on the other side of this much-freaded over world.

Lee C. Camp (1:33)

How nice.

Savannah Locke (1:34)

I know. I love that.

Lee C. Camp (1:35)

Thank you, Dave. That's also the reason I often don't live in Christian media either.

Savannah Locke (1:42)

Isn't that so funny? So that's number one. So Dave, thank you so much for your very generous and kind words.

Also we got a message from someone about an NPR episode. So, you know how we talked a couple of weeks ago about the meta-settlement with teenagers, basically their time's getting reduced. And we talked a lot about what that means for teenagers as they engage online. Well, Ira Glass, who is going to be at No Small Endeavor's show this Sunday before Thanksgiving, plug to get your tickets, he released a video on social media where he said that they started seeing these very odd comments on their episodes on Spotify. And at first, they thought these random comments were spam. So they had, yeah, they had someone go through and just report them all as bots. And then someone in their office was Gen Z and said, those aren't bots. Those are teenagers talking to each other. So Ira Glass reaches out to one of the users, ends up getting an interview with them. And Ira Glass says, hey, like, why are you guys using this as a chat room? It's because they don't have socials. And so they have gone to Spotify to use as their effective social media. And they're chatting back and forth. And he said, how did you guys decide to use NPR? And the teenager said, we looked for episodes that didn't have any comments.

And that's what they found.

Lee C. Camp (3:10)

And Ira said, I have to tell you, I have a public radio show and that kind of hurts. And the young woman replied and said, sorry.

SPEAKER_3 (3:24)

Isn't that so funny?

Lee C. Camp (3:25)

It's a hoot. I did see that.

Savannah Locke (3:27)

But it did make me think and what the listener of our show said to us was kids are going to figure out ways to communicate online, even if they're not allowed.

Lee C. Camp (3:35)

Yeah. Yes.

Savannah Locke (3:37)

On social media. However, the harms of being on Spotify might be less so than being on Instagram.

Lee C. Camp (3:41)

Indeed.

Savannah Locke (3:41)

Or TikTok. Lee, on that note, let's start the show.

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