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The Subtext: How to Leave Your Church - Ask Us Anything 2

No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp

September 30, 2026

It’s the first birthday of The Subtext! Savannah and Lee celebrate with an “Ask Us Everything” episode, answering listener questions about Bible translations, music, patriotism, how to leave your church community, and more. Thank you to everyone who made year one of The Subtext special. We love you!

Speakers Lee C. Camp, Savannah Logg

TopicsReligion & SpiritualitySociety & CulturePhilosophy

Lee C. Camp (0:00)

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Now, on to the show. Hello, Savannah. Welcome to our show.

Savannah Logg (0:21)

Welcome to our show, Lee.

Lee C. Camp (0:22)

It's good to see you today.

Savannah Logg (0:23)

Lee, today is such a special day.

Lee C. Camp (0:25)

Tell me all about it.

Savannah Logg (0:26)

It is our 52nd episode. That's amazing. Which signals 52 weeks.

Lee C. Camp (0:32)

That's amazing.

Savannah Logg (0:33)

Which means it's our first birthday.

Lee C. Camp (0:35)

Unbelievable. How about that?

Savannah Logg (0:38)

I got a slice of cake to celebrate with a candle, but then I didn't bring a match, so it will be unlit.

Lee C. Camp (0:46)

Yes.

Savannah Logg (0:47)

But this cake is from Baked on 8th.

Lee C. Camp (0:50)

Oh, nice.

Savannah Logg (0:51)

Which is the bakery.

SPEAKER_3 (0:51)

Very nice.

Savannah Logg (0:52)

On 8th Avenue.

SPEAKER_3 (0:53)

Yes.

Savannah Logg (0:53)

Very close to the studio where we record. And I thought you could sing us all happy birthday while holding the cake.

Lee C. Camp (0:59)

Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday to The Subtext, happy birthday to you.

Savannah Logg (1:12)

Love the riff at the end. Happy birthday to The Subtext.

Lee C. Camp (1:15)

Yes, indeed. And to all that have made this possible, lots of people.

Savannah Logg (1:20)

Literally the only reason we're here.

Lee C. Camp (1:21)

Mary Evelyn Brown, Sophie Byard originated the idea.

Savannah Logg (1:25)

Exactly.

Lee C. Camp (1:26)

And working with you this year has been lovely. Just so many wonderful folks that have made this possible. So we're thankful.

Savannah Logg (1:34)

Particularly people who actually listen.

Lee C. Camp (1:36)

Absolutely, for sure. It's been amazing.

Savannah Logg (1:38)

Without you, we would just be too weird as talking to each other in a studio.

Lee C. Camp (1:43)

That would be really weird.

Savannah Logg (1:45)

It would be so strange.

Lee C. Camp (1:46)

So yes, it's been wonderful to hear from so many people over this year, and it's been delightful.

Savannah Logg (1:52)

Oh, great. Lee, I loved hearing you sing, and if the rumors are true, more people are going to be able to hear you sing this year.

Lee C. Camp (2:01)

Yes, we're always excited to let people know about the big show end of the year, Schermerhorn Symphony Hall here in Nashville, Tennessee. We have people come in from around the country, and we hope more people, even more people, will come in from around the country.

Savannah Logg (2:13)

Tell me about it. Who are the guests?

Lee C. Camp (2:14)

Ira Glass, host of This American Life, and the iconic Emmylou Harris. Full stage, full of incredible musicians, and then other friends will be added to the roster, no doubt. So it's going to be a great night.

Savannah Logg (2:29)

Last year, you sang Edelweiss.

Lee C. Camp (2:32)

I did.

Savannah Logg (2:32)

And you made my mom cry.

Lee C. Camp (2:34)

Well, blessings on your mom.

Savannah Logg (2:36)

Do you have anything this year that you're going to be bringing up?

Lee C. Camp (2:38)

I have no idea yet.

Savannah Logg (2:40)

I hope it's an emotional, gut-wrenching experience for all.

Lee C. Camp (2:43)

Yeah. I always find some way to weasel myself into singing with our guests as well.

Savannah Logg (2:51)

I mean, to be able to sing with Emmy Lu is like a bucket list item for everyone.

Lee C. Camp (2:56)

I don't know that I'll get to, but we'll see.

Savannah Logg (2:58)

But you might be able to.

Lee C. Camp (2:59)

I might be able to.

Savannah Logg (3:00)

So go grab your tickets, everyone, for the Sunday before.

Lee C. Camp (3:03)

Go to the nosmallendeavor.com and check, click on events.

Savannah Logg (3:08)

Amazing. On that note, let's start the show.

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