The Singularity is Here: AI is Solving Math, Sora Outpaces Chat-GPT & AI is Designing Chips w/ Salim Ismail, Dave Blundin & Alex Wissner-Gross | EP #201
Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
October 20, 2025
Salim Ismail is the founder of OpenExO Dave Blundin is the founder & GP of Link Ventures Dr. Alexander Wissner-Gross is a computer scientist and founder of Reified, focused on AI and complex systems.
Speakers Peter Diamandis, Dave Blundin, Alexander Wissner-Gross, Salim Ismail, Sam Altman
TopicsBusiness
Peter Diamandis (0:00)
It sort of feels like we're in the midst of continuous event horizons.
Dave Blundin (0:06)
We all agree on this podcast that we're right in the middle of the singularity at this moment.
Alexander Wissner-Gross (0:11)
I think it's increasingly likely that the singularity is an optical illusion. It's an optical illusion that appears at a distance. It looks like a vertical asymptote, but when you're in the middle of it, as I increasingly suspect we are, feels quite continuous.
Dave Blundin (0:25)
If you froze technology today, and just assimilated what we invented in the last two years, it would take decades to realize all the implications.
Peter Diamandis (0:36)
QPT-5 Pro sets record at frontier math.
Alexander Wissner-Gross (0:39)
We now have clear line of sight to solving all of math, or substantially all of math as we understand it in 2025 now with AI.
Salim Ismail (0:47)
How do we navigate this future? Because we can see it's coming now. So what does that future look like? Let's start painting that picture.
Peter Diamandis (0:54)
What does it mean when math is solved? What's the implications for all of our subscribers here?
Dave Blundin (1:02)
Now that's the Moonshot, ladies and gentlemen.
Peter Diamandis (1:07)
Everybody, welcome to Moonshots, another episode of WTF, Just Happening in Technology with my incredible Moonshot mates, Salim Ismail, Alex Wissner-Gross, and Dave Blundin. Gentlemen, good morning, exciting day here.
Alexander Wissner-Gross (1:21)
Good morning.
Peter Diamandis (1:23)
You know, we're recording this at 6:30 a.m., at least Pacific time. And I remember a couple minutes ago, we're talking and Salim, you were saying, Oh my God, you're getting up so early. And Alex, what was your response?
Alexander Wissner-Gross (1:36)
This is the slowest it will ever be for a while.
Peter Diamandis (1:38)
Yeah, and there's no...
Salim Ismail (1:38)
No, you said don't sleep through the singularity.
Peter Diamandis (1:41)
Yeah, I think that was it.
Honestly, it's like every day waking up more excited than the last. And it's just fun. So to our subscribers and listeners, we've spent the last four or five days gathering articles that are, in our mind, the most significant things going on. The speed is accelerating. We're going to actually close this podcast conversation with a discussion about what is Ray Kurzweil's singularity that we're going to hit by 2045? What does it actually mean? Because it feels like we're hitting it a lot earlier. Dave, what's been on your mind this week?
Dave Blundin (2:19)
Actually, Ray was at MIT making that presentation that we'll get to at the end of the pod. So I've been thinking about the specifics of the timeline from here to there. And then this incredible compute shortage, you know, will be in Riyadh next week. And, you know, that's data center central right now. So I've been thinking about that a lot too.
Peter Diamandis (2:38)
This week is XPRIZE Visioneering. We're going to have the Moonshot mates in Malibu, LA. If you're interested in joining us at the XPRIZE Visioneering, which is where we debate and we discuss all of the competitions, what we should be launching next, we'll drop the link in here. You can join us there and just go to xprize.org. Yeah?
Salim Ismail (3:04)
Arguably, the most important conference of the year globally.
Dave Blundin (3:08)
Yeah.
Salim Ismail (3:09)
Just because trying to solve which problems we want to go by solving is such a critical thing today.
Peter Diamandis (3:14)
Yeah, I agree.
Dave Blundin (3:15)
And I think the order of operations matters a lot, especially for people investing or career planning in this area. And the timelines are becoming more concrete now. And so I think we'll really cement our ideas a lot next week. And then Alex will refine it into the perfect message for the audience.
Peter Diamandis (3:32)
Yeah, agreed. So if you want to join us, again, we'll drop the link in the chat notes below. Salim, what's on your mind this week? You're going to be with me in Malibu at Visioneering. And then, Dave, you and I are off to Riyadh for FII9, the Future Investment Initiative. A lot of AI conversations happening there.
Salim Ismail (3:54)
We're pretty much all there, right? I mean, huge conversations going on. It looks like the big dominant conversation will be, how do we use AI to solve everything to Alex's points that he repeatedly makes on this pod? Because now we can apply AI as a tool to any of these domains. It's huge.
Peter Diamandis (4:13)
Yeah. Alex, how about your week? I'm sorry you're not going to be with us, but hey, I'm sure you're busy.
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