The Secrets Behind A Crumbling British Government - Dominic Cummings - #819

**Chris Williamson** (0:00)
Hello, friends, welcome back to the show. My guest today is Dominic Cummings. He's a political strategist who served as chief advisor to the British Prime Minister, Boris Johnson. Dominic has masterminded some of the biggest events in recent history, from leading the vote leave campaign during Brexit to quarterbacking Boris Johnson's COVID response. He has seen the inside of UK and US government at their most chaotic. And the things that he knows are absolutely wild. Expect to learn just how inefficient the inside of government is, how the Conservatives lost so badly in the recent general election, why immigration has gotten worse even after Brexit, what Dominic thinks about America's potential future under Kamala Harris, how it felt to have Benedict Cumberbatch play him in a movie, and much more. Dominic is the boogeyman behind the scenes to many people, and I imagine that there's lots of them who have massive problems with the things that he says. But my god, the opportunity to hear someone that has been this close to the absolute central seat of power inside of the British government and all meetings with the leaders of countries from the EU and from the US, it is so interesting to see exactly how these institutions, these organizations, the people within them hold on to power, their fears, what it is that they're optimizing for. It's so interesting. If you have any desire to understand how countries are genuinely run, there is a lot of interesting insights to take away from this one. This episode is brought to you by Whoop. I've won Whoop for over four years now, since way before they were a partner on the show, and it is the only wearable I have ever stuck with, because it's the best. It is so innocuous. You do not remember that you've got it on, and yet, it tracks absolutely everything 24-7 via something from your wrist. It tracks your heart rate. It tracks your sleep, your recovery, all of your workouts, your resting heart rate, your heart rate variability, how much you're breathing throughout the night. It puts all of this into an app and spits out very simple, easy to understand and fantastically usable data. It's phenomenal. I am a massive, massive fan of Whoop, and that is why it's the only wearable that I've ever stuck with. You can join for free, pay nothing for the brand new Whoop 4 strap, plus you get your first month for free and there's a 30-day money back guarantee. So you can buy it for free, try it for free, and if you do not like it, after 29 days, they will give you your money back. Head to join.whoop.com/modernwisdom. That's join.whoop.com/modernwisdom. If you want more focus in your life, or if you find yourself dealing with an energy slump in the middle of the day where you just don't have the motivation to stay productive, fear not because I do too, which is why I spent more than a year creating the world's first productivity energy drink, Neutonic. Honestly, I'm so proud of this. I was involved in the design stage from the very beginning and we made sure to only include the most heavily researched and evidence-based ingredients in the world at efficacious doses to create the most potent fuel for your focus ever made. It uses a science-backed formula of Neutropic ingredients including Cognizant for focus, Panax ginseng to reduce distractions and L-Theanine to remove any jitters and keep you feeling great. We've got thousands of 5-star reviews and you can see exactly why by trying it for yourself right now with free next-day delivery on Amazon Prime in the UK and the USA. Simply head to newtonic.com/modernwisdom. That's neutonic.com/modernwisdom.
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Good Morning Britain asked the question, is multiculturalism working? 5% said yes, and 95% said no, it isn't. What do you make of that?

**Dominic Cummings** (4:49)
I guess not surprising, given like, you know, months and months of crazy marches, terrorism over the years, harassment of MPs. I mean, lots of parts of the country go to, they seem kind of like, clearly crazy. There's a lot of violence in various towns, which is not picked up by the mainstream media. But if you live there, you know, you live with it, you see it all the time. So I'm slightly surprised by the number, but the overall kind of picture is not surprising.