The Rapture is not Coming!

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Dan McClellan (1:00)

The Rapture is something that some dudes made up that was then leveraged as a means of trying to influence people to be good, to eat their vegetables, to not touch themselves. That's just a tool, a piece of leverage that people use to try to control behavior and incentivize or disincentivize certain behaviors. And it has been phenomenally harmful to entire generations. And stop it.

Hey everybody, I'm Dan McClellan.

Dan Beecher (1:37)

And I'm Dan Beecher.

Dan McClellan (1:38)

And you are listening to the Data Over Dogma podcast where we increase public access to the academic study of the Bible and religion and combat the spread of misinformation about the same. How are things, Dan?

Dan Beecher (1:51)

Oh, man, I am worried.

Dan McClellan (1:54)

Worried?

Dan Beecher (1:54)

I am desperately concerned that all of my loved ones are going to fly away and leave me behind.

Dan McClellan (2:04)

And not in a Lenny Kravitz kind of fly away.

Dan Beecher (2:10)

Maybe in a Lenny Kravitz.

I don't know if it's a Lenny Kravitz sort of way. I'm going to need you to teach me that. But yes, today we're going to be talking about the Rapture.

Dan McClellan (2:25)

The Velocirapture, right? Is the full name.

Dan Beecher (2:29)

That's the best one. That's the Jurassic version. Okay. And then we're going to be going over some stuff. You had me, you went through and said, hey, let's talk about Daniel 10 And I was like, cool. So I went and I read Daniel 10, and I understood exactly none of it. And so I'm very excited to figure out what the heck that thing is talking about.

And you relate it to Revelation. So that's going to be fun. And we'll just figure that out as we go.

Dan McClellan (3:01)

Yeah, we're just going to go with it. No need, we don't have to put labels on this.

Dan Beecher (3:04)

We can do whatever we want. It's our show. They can't stop us.

All right, well, let's get into... Oh, we didn't come up with a good name for our rapture segment.

Dan McClellan (3:17)

Do we have an end times theme?

Dan Beecher (3:19)

We could just call it eschatological.

Dan McClellan (3:26)

I love it. Okay. Eschatological.

Oh, gosh. The only reason I know what eschatological means is because of the movie Nerds.

Dan Beecher (3:39)

Okay.

Dan McClellan (3:39)

Because there's a part where they're having a belching contest, but it is introduced by a very milquetoast character who says he does not like eschatological things.

Dan Beecher (3:56)

All right, well, I'm going to tell our editor to leave all of this in because I think that that was great. But let's do our first segment called Eschatological.

So, you know, it's so funny. I, my other podcast, thank god I'm atheist, started because me and my friend Frank were, we went, do you remember back, I think it was 2011, when Harold Camping decided to, that he had calculated the exact date of the rapture.

Dan McClellan (4:40)

Right.

Dan Beecher (4:41)

And, and he, you know, he put up billboards all across the country. I remember seeing one here, which that's a waste. There are not enough evangelicals in Salt Lake City to put up a billboard. That's just silly. But people were ready and also freaked out because this was, because the, the rapture was coming. And Frank and I did this thing called Rapture Watch on a local radio station. And we did a whole very, very silly thing where we were, you know, we pretended like our friend was calling in from Kansas City. And we were pretending like the rapture was following sort of the time zones. So it was like coming towards us.