The Quiet Revolution Against Modern Feminism - Brett Cooper - #810

**Chris Williamson** (0:00)
Hello, everybody. Welcome back to the show. My guest today is Brett Cooper. She's a political commentator, an actor, and a YouTuber. It is revolutionary to say that you want to get married young and build a family in the modern world, but why? Is the choice between being co-opted by capitalism or conned by the patriarchy? Surely there must be a better solution for men and women. Expect to learn how Brett feels about getting married at 23, why the modern dating landscape is such a mess, how both men and women can find and build a lasting relationship, why Brett hates Pickleball, how she felt about Candace Owens' Daily wire drama, Gen Z's opinion on motherhood, what it's like working in Hollywood as a young girl, and much more. If you are new here or if you are a long-time listener, don't forget that you might be listening but not subscribed, and that will make you trez sad, because we have some of the biggest guests ever coming on over the next couple of weeks, and you don't want to miss them. So navigate to Spotify and press the follow button in the middle of the page, or go to Apple Podcasts in the plus in the top right-hand corner. It really does help to support the show. It makes me very happy indeed, and it ensures that you will not miss these huge episodes when they go up. So go and do it, please. I thank you. But now, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Brett Cooper.
You got married.

**Brett Cooper** (1:38)
I did.

**Chris Williamson** (1:39)
How's that been?

**Brett Cooper** (1:40)
It's the best thing I've ever done, seriously. We got married on March 30th, this year, so very recently, and best day of my life, best decision. Obviously, it's like a baby marriage. It's very new, but it's been amazing. I'm grateful for him. I'm grateful for the institution of marriage. It's just, yeah, it's been wonderful.

**Chris Williamson** (2:03)
Getting married at 22 is a pretty radical thing to do for someone with a career.

**Brett Cooper** (2:08)
Yes, it is. It's interesting. I have always known I wanted to be married. I've always known that I wanted to be a mother. I had a career in Hollywood. I was a child actor for 10 plus years. And I remember I had a conversation with my best friend at the time. We were walking through Burbank. I think I was like 15 years old and we were talking about our dreams and hopes. And she was pinned for a new series and she was like, this is all I've ever wanted. We were talking about all of that. And I brought up a concern that I had had basically since I started in this industry and started working with adults, because that's one of the cool things and also something that gets very dicey in Hollywood is that you're working with adults constantly. For me, in my experience, it ended up working out very well because I was exposed to people who were much more successful than I was were further along in their careers. I got to see how they were operating, how they balanced their career and family and marriage. And I did not like what I saw. And so, in the back of my mind, I was like, I know that I want to be the type of mother that my mom is, where she walked away from her career and she dedicated every fiber of her being to being a mother. That was her career. It was very, very intentional. I'm going to raise the best human beings possible. I wanted to be that engaged. And I saw the mothers that I worked with on shows, the fathers. I saw the 35-year-old series regulars on Netflix who were still living in condos with four other roommates, who couldn't afford to buy a house or support a family in Los Angeles. So in my teen years, I was like, this isn't compatible. This isn't what I want. And I had been like wrestling with that. And so in this conversation with my friend, I said, you know, that isn't really at the end of the day what I want. What I want is to be a wife and a mother. And I never like actually expressed that to her, even though she was one of my best friends. And she whipped her head around and was like, you are willing to give up your career for that? I didn't even say that. I had not insinuated it. I was just saying, you know, at the end of the day, that's what I want. She was like, you're willing to walk away from everything and sacrifice it will never be as successful because that's what you want. She was like, I'm not willing to do that. And so it's kind of like, the people who wanted to be married and wanted to be mothers didn't want it enough.