The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta)

**Lenny Rachitsky** (0:00)
You are a product manager, shipping product without knowing how to write code, barely knowing how to review code.

**Zevi Arnovitz** (0:05)
I have zero technical background, did music in high school when Sonnet 3.5 came out. I remember watching a YouTube video, building apps using Bolt or Lovable. It basically felt like someone came up to me and said, you have superpowers now.

**Lenny Rachitsky** (0:19)
These days, you're using Cursor with Claude Code.

**Zevi Arnovitz** (0:22)
If you're non-technical like me, code is terrifying, but AI just makes so much possible in the next coming years. I think everyone's going to become a builder. Titles are going to collapse and responsibilities are going to collapse.

**Lenny Rachitsky** (0:33)
The main challenge people have is reviewing the code that AI has written.

**Zevi Arnovitz** (0:36)
It's very difficult for me to catch mistakes. What I'll do is basically slash review. This tells Claude to start reviewing its own code. But what's even cooler is I have Codex as well as Cursor open. I will have each of them review the code.

**Lenny Rachitsky** (0:52)
This comes back to this quote I think everyone's always hearing. It's not that you will be replaced by AI, you'll be replaced by someone who's better at using AI than you.

**Zevi Arnovitz** (0:59)
It's the best time to be a junior, contrary to what a lot of people are saying, how there's no more junior roles out there. Yeah, that's true. But also when else in history could you get out of school and just build a startup on your own?

**Lenny Rachitsky** (1:11)
Today, my guest is Zevi Arnovitz, Zevi's APM at Meta. Prior to that, he was a PM at Wix. And this is a truly remarkable conversation that every non-technical product person needs to hear. Zevi is super young and has no technical background, but as a smart, young, ambitious person, has learned how to use Cursor and Claude Code to build significant and real products completely on his own, and he's created his own very clever and effective workflow that everyone listening can copy. To make that copying even easier, at the top of the show notes of this episode, you can download all the prompts and slash commands and start doing all of this yourself. Zevi shows you how to work with Cursor to quickly add your ideas to linear, to explore your idea with AI., how to develop your plan, how to then build the thing, and then have different LLMs review your code and update your documentation, and then use all of this as a learning opportunity to develop your own sense of how things work. I haven't stopped thinking about this conversation since we had it, and everyone needs to pay attention to what AI is unlocking for non-technical people. A huge thank you to Tal Raviv for encouraging me to meet Zevi. If you enjoyed this podcast, don't forget to subscribe and follow it. Any favorite podcasting app or YouTube? It helps tremendously. And if you become an annual subscriber of my newsletter, you get 19 premium products for free for an entire year, including Lovable, Replit, Bold, Gamma, N8N, Linear, Devon, Post Talk, Superhuman, Descript, Whisper Flow, Perplexity, Warp, Granola, Magic Pattern, Drake House, ChappieRD, Mobbin and Stripe Atlas. Head on over to lennysnewsletter.com and click Product Pass. With that, I bring you Zevi Arnovitz after a short word from our sponsors. This episode is brought to you by TenWeb, the company that pioneered AI website building before ChatGPT. In the last three years, over two million websites have been generated with TenWeb's Vibe Coding Platform. TenWeb's Vibe Coding Platform is a powerful way to build websites. Think of it as lovable for WordPress, front-end and backend. Users can build any website at any complexity, e-commerce, portfolios, information websites, blogs, and it comes with a WordPress admin panel and thousands of ready-to-use plugins. TenWeb also offers website generation as an API as a service for SaaS companies, marketplaces, hosting providers, MSPs, and agencies. SaaS companies can embed it via API so that users can launch AI-generated sites directly inside of their platform connected to their own data. Agencies and MSPs can get a white label dashboard to manage clients and resell under their brand. Hosting providers can self-host the API builder on their own infrastructure. Check it out at tenweb.io/lenny and use code Lenny for exclusive free credits and 30% off API or white-labeled solutions. That's the number ten web.io/lennyvibecodingplatform as an API. Today's episode is brought to you by DX, the developer intelligence platform designed by leading researchers. To thrive in the AI era, organizations need to adapt quickly. But many organization leaders struggle to answer pressing questions like, which tools are working? How are they being used? What's actually driving value? DX provides the data and insights that leaders need to navigate this shift. With DX, companies like Dropbox, booking.com, Adyen and Intercom get a deep understanding of how AI is providing value to their developers and what impact AI is having on engineering productivity. To learn more, visit DX's website at getdx.com/lenny. That's getdx.com/lenny.